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It is all talk for right now. It will eventually happen, and the engineers are definitely working on it as they should. However, the chances of Stellantis making their self-imposed deadline is a debacle in the making that they will have a hard time recovering from. When Jeep places tens-of-thousands of EV charging stations out in the nether regions that Jeepers like to travel, and Jeep can achieve an 800 mile range while wheeling/overlanding (Gotta put in that extra milage to make up for the charging downtime.) then and only then will EV be a truly great choice for those that like to use their Jeeps for what they were originally designed for.
Please point out to me *any* Jeep that has an 800 mile range right now when overlanding.
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:CWL: Point to any factual information in that article that direct quotes any Dodge/Stallantis representative.
Last comment because I don't have time to waste with people that don't accept reality. It was already previously confirmed by Morrison.
 

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Please point out to me *any* Jeep that has an 800 mile range right now when overlanding.
?You obviously didn't comprehend that "(Gotta put in that extra milage to make up for the charging downtime.)" statement, OR you just glossed over what I wrote and couldn't wait to pounce. ?

Additionally, most Overlander's carry extra fuel. Are you gonna carry extra EV batteries? I suppose it is possible eventually, but not today.
 
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?You obviously didn't comprehend that "(Gotta put in that extra milage to make up for the charging downtime.)" statement, OR you just glossed over what I wrote and couldn't wait to pounce. ?
Nope, because what exactly do you do when Overlanding and you've running out of range in an ICE? You plan your route ahead, know your range, and plot gas stations within that range to fill back up. Same thing with a BEV, except now it's a charging station. Even better, you can take that BEV, stop overnight at a hotel and plug in to charge overnight. You can't fuel up at most hotels, last I checked. I know many people who overland, and still duck into a hotel off and on over long trips to shower and enjoy a bed/AC/Heat.
 

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Sure is a lot of bickering over nothing. NOT ONE WORD REGARDING DROPPING THE 392 IN WRANGLERS.
Ah...this IS a WRANGLER forum...eh? Personally, I don't care what they do with the GC's or Trailhawks!
 

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Nope, because what exactly do you do when Overlanding and you've running out of range in an ICE? You plan your route ahead, know your range, and plot gas stations within that range to fill back up. Same thing with a BEV, except now it's a charging station. Even better, you can take that BEV, stop overnight at a hotel and plug in to charge overnight. You can't fuel up at most hotels, last I checked. I know many people who overland, and still duck into a hotel off and on over long trips to shower and enjoy a bed/AC/Heat.
OR.... you take extra fuel like a lot of people do, but you do you, and I will do me.
 

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https://www.motorious.com/articles/features-3/dodge-cancelling-hemi-v8/

You really think they are only going to make a 392 for the Wrangler only?
I don't have enough information to make a decision on what I think, which is why I asked for a better source. The link provided is someone's "predictions".


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What an appropriate username.
 

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probably a lot longer than a tank of gas tbh, uses very little energy sitting there especially when equipped with a heat pump

actually I looked it up, why not:


How does this all play out practically? Let’s take for example an EV with a resistive heater, like the Volkswagen e-Golf. It is a small car with a small battery, and a small cabin to heat. Because of its resistive heating elements, all heat generated for the cabin costs the same regardless of whether or not the vehicle is moving. Drivers report approximately 1.5-2.5 kW of heater draw in outside temperatures from 35 to 15 degrees Fahrenheit. With 50% charge on a 32kWh battery, that translates to between 6.5-10.5 hours of heat on a 15-35 degree day; double that on a full charge.

But what about a modern EV with a bigger battery and better heating options, such as heated seats?

Enter the Tesla Model 3. For 2021, Tesla switched from resistive heating to a heat pump. Drivers report greatly improved efficiency when it comes to heating their cars. One user slept in his Model 3 and ran metrics on it overnight in sub-freezing weather, finding the battery consumed 1.36kW per hour, on average. For a Tesla with a 80kWh battery, this means you could sit in your Tesla nice and toasty for almost 59 hours on a full charge, or about 29 hours on a half charge.

https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/cold-weather-idling-in-an-ev

So who's got the next idiotic FUD about EVs to discredit.
Good info, thanks. But a 15 to 35 degree day can be spring/fall weather up here. We routinely see below zero. The other thing that I haven't seen anyone address is the cost to replace the batteries when they wear out. I honestly don't know but you hear from $4k to $10k being thrown around. Not sure if that's a true number or not but it's something that should be taken into consideration on top of the initial purchase price.
 

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How low can the outside temperature get before the Tesla heat pump no longer works? The heat pumps I'm familiar with only work down to 40 degrees outside air temp. Did Tesla find a way to extract heat from 15 degree outside air and warm the cabin for 59 hours?? Either way, one nice thing about ANY of the Wranglers in that New England scenario is they CAN get off the highway if they really wanted to! :LOL:
 

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How low can the outside temperature get before the Tesla heat pump no longer works? The heat pumps I'm familiar with only work down to 40 degrees outside air temp. Did Tesla find a way to extract heat from 15 degree outside air and warm the cabin for 59 hours?? Either way, one nice thing about ANY of the Wranglers in that New England scenario is they CAN get off the highway if they really wanted to! :LOL:
I haven't looked into it but I assume Tesla kept the heat strip for low temperatures, just like the heat pump HVAC systems on buildings.
 

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