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So I'm bringing my Rubicon into an alignment shop on Monday. What is the latest caster and toe-in that people say is working to resolve "wondering" on the highway? I have adjustable LCA's and adjustable track bar. My caster is currently set to 5.5 and my toe-in I believe .2.
Depending on other geometry factors, toe adjustments and steering results vary. The best way is to test drive at different toe settings at different sides of the spec, low, high, middle. Then choose the one that drives best for your JL.
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Just to clarify, this LCA swap can be done with all 4 wheels on the ground, right? Just a slight lift of the frame to align the holes with the slightly longer LCA, right?

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Just to clarify, this LCA swap can be done with all 4 wheels on the ground, right? Just a slight lift of the frame to align the holes with the slightly longer LCA, right?

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Yes. Just do one at a time.

I pulled my tires just to get easier access but I have nice jack and stands.
 

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I was planning on doing it on ramps
I put mine on ramps and the extra space off the ground made swapping the arms much easier. I did everything from underneath and don't see any advantage to taking the tires off, but ymmv. The entire process took about 30 minutes, with the longest part being breaking the nuts/bolts loose and getting them out.
 

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I swapped mine today. I have a jlu with rubicon suspension. It really has made a big difference on how it tracks and drives straight. The steering feels really tight. Not sure if I’ll do the recall now since it drives so well.
 

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These should have been the stock LCAs that they came with from the factory.
 
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I agree. I had them for a couple weeks and didn’t think it would be such a big deal. I was wrong.
 

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Thanks to this forum, I just changed out my LCA’s to these upgraded mopar pieces. And I do mean upgraded, they only appear to be slightly longer, but they are significantly heavier. They make the stock lca’s feel like they’re hollow when holding both of them side by side. This can be done without any lifting at all on your garage floor. My Milwaukee M18 impact zipped the bolts right out without a problem and the new pieces slid in with only a little nudge with a prybar on the first side. This upgrade is literally 20 minutes in your back and done. Drives much more solid. Mine is an all stock 2019 Rubicon 4dr and I had a lot of play in the steering. Seems to be a cured.
 

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Thanks to this forum, I just changed out my LCA’s to these upgraded mopar pieces. And I do mean upgraded, they only appear to be slightly longer, but they are significantly heavier. They make the stock lca’s feel like they’re hollow when holding both of them side by side. This can be done without any lifting at all on your garage floor. My Milwaukee M18 impact zipped the bolts right out without a problem and the new pieces slid in with only a little nudge with a prybar on the first side. This upgrade is literally 20 minutes in your back and done. Drives much more solid. Mine is an all stock 2019 Rubicon 4dr and I had a lot of play in the steering. Seems to be a cured.
How did it go retorquing the bolts? Mine were a bit of a pain but I finally used the floor jack to lift the torque wrench enough to get them torqued to 190.
 

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I didn’t have my torque wrench handy so I just put them back on with the impact driver, I couldn’t budge them by hand after that more than a quarter turn, so I figure I should be good...I hope. I’ll check them again after a few more miles. They are definitely built more solid than what comes stock for some reason.
 

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Just to clarify, this LCA swap can be done with all 4 wheels on the ground, right? Just a slight lift of the frame to align the holes with the slightly longer LCA, right?

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Control arms should only be torqued when the vehicle suspension is loaded. So ground, ramps, or a drive on lift.

You can put on stands to get the old ones out and new ones installed, but do not torque them until you put it back on the ground.

If you torque while suspension is unloaded you will damage/destroy the bushings when you put it back under its own weight.
 

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Rubicon stock height can completely be done with the vehicle on the ground, the others I’m not sure of. I went out for a hundred mile drive today on a mix of roads and it was a much improved experience, everyone should be putting these on, I see no down side.
 

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Rubicon stock height can completely be done with the vehicle on the ground, the others I’m not sure of. I went out for a hundred mile drive today on a mix of roads and it was a much improved experience, everyone should be putting these on, I see no down side.
Good point, but there shouldn't be a need to put these on a Sport or Sahara unless they have installed a Rubicon suspension. The problem is that FCA didn't use the proper control arms for the Rubicons to correct the caster fr the height. If you put these on a stock non-Rubi, you're going to have 8 degrees of caster!
 

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So today I finally swap my stock LCA with Mopar lift LCA, my JL is currently at stock height, but I hope that slightly longer LCA can give me a bit more caster. Also, it is Mopar so the dealer can't tell I swapped unless they look at it under a microscope.

As you can see in the picture, Mopar lift LCA is slightly longer than the stock LCA (measured by about 1/4 inch). In case you are interested in doing this mod, the part number for Mopar lift LCA is 68322798AA. If you want to use a new set of bolts and nuts, they are 6512085AA (bolt, M16-1.5x104mm) and 6104720AA (nut). The torque specs are 190 ft-lb. The 103 and 125 ft-lbs floating around the internet are from the old JK smaller bolt and nut specs, JL has a larger bolt so the torque should be much higher.

Some tips for your installation:

(1) Tools, tools, tools! Breaking free LCA requires a 21 mm deep socket and 24 mm wrench, since the space is really limited under the car, you need to have an impact wrench that can deliver good torque.

(2) The new LCA will be longer, so you need to jack up the frame slightly (shown in another picture, please ignore the crappy bottle jack setup, I am just too lazy to pull my 3-ton). This will move axle forward and help align the holes.. Once you push one side in, the other side should be easy since the axle is already moved.

(3) I put a tiny bit of anti-seize in the LCA mount, does not hurt to have a little bit.

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Update: not sure if it is placebo, but my Rubicon now tracks super straight, I can keep it straight at 70 mph with one finger. I will do an alignment next week to see how much caster I gain but it is definitely a much improvement.
Do you know the length of the updated LCA?
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