why do people like poke?

[James Cole]

Stability in curves and corners on road, and off camber situations offroad? Yes, the wider track helps to offset the higher center of gravity from larger tires and ride height.

As far as driving better than stock? That all depends on tire size, and if one goes far enough down the rabbits hole to support said tire size. The taller the tire, the deeper the climb to reach a better driving Jeep than it was in stock form.

Mainly looking at the difference of Stock 33s vs 285/70s with about an inch poke... will the 33s drive better all around?

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[Headbarcode]

Mainly looking at the difference of Stock 33s vs 285/70s with about an inch poke... will the 33s drive better all around?

285/70-17 is the slightly smaller metric equivalent to a 33x11.5 tire.

Apologies for answering a question with more questions, but the more info I have, the better I can help you.

Is it safe to assume that you've got a Rubicon?

If so, is it lifted now or do you plan on lifting it?

How are you looking to achieve the 1" of poke? Aftermarket wheels with a less positive offset, or spacers behind the stock wheels?

What exactly are you looking to improve?

Again, these just help me help you make the best decision.

 

[James Cole]

285/70-17 is the slightly smaller metric equivalent to a 33x11.5 tire.

Apologies for answering a question with more questions, but the more info I have, the better I can help you.

Is it safe to assume that you've got a Rubicon?

If so, is it lifted now or do you plan on lifting it?

How are you looking to achieve the 1" of poke? Aftermarket wheels with a less positive offset, or spacers behind the stock wheels?

What exactly are you looking to improve?

Again, these just help me help you make the best decision.

Hey Headbarcode,

1. No, I have a Mojave Gladiator that is 1 inch taller than a Rubicon.
2. No lift and don't plan to, its tall enough already stock for me.
3. Im looking to achieve the poke with aftermarket wheels and spacers... I have some 17x9.5 wheels but they contact the tie-rod at full turn so they need 1" inch spacers for them to work
4. Im looking to improve ride quality (softer) and better stability specially in on-road driving.

Thanks!
JC

 

[DHW]

Here’s an argument in favor of a small amount of poke that came about around 2 hours ago. First here’s my level of poke:

Now, here’s the side of the asshole’s truck who changed lanes into me a few hours ago:

Notice the round, black, 35”-sized tire marks on his dented door. I had a few scuffs on my fender and a slight scuff on my rear driver side door. Tried to get a pic but I buffed them all out to where you can’t see them anymore. But the white letters on my KO2s have seen better days. Until I clean them that is. I have the original Mopar beadlocks and they weren’t touched.

I thank poke for preventing any actual damage to my Jeep.

 

[Carolina Jeeper]

I always thought of Jeeps are easy to flip over since they have a higher center of gravity. So, I decided to go with more for stability. I subjectively think it adds to the look of my Jeep. You know, like how some Jeep owners think taller Jeeps look better.

 

[guarnibl]

Tastes good

 

[rizion]

I thought this thread was about poke bowls and was a bit confused until I opened it. I must have food on the brain for some reason...

same.

 

[rizion]

Stance. the JL looks like a dork mobile otherwise.

 

[Headbarcode]

Hey Headbarcode,

1. No, I have a Mojave Gladiator that is 1 inch taller than a Rubicon.
2. No lift and don't plan to, its tall enough already stock for me.
3. Im looking to achieve the poke with aftermarket wheels and spacers... I have some 17x9.5 wheels but they contact the tie-rod at full turn so they need 1" inch spacers for them to work
4. Im looking to improve ride quality (softer) and better stability specially in on-road driving.

Thanks!
JC

1. Oh, you have JL listed under vehicles in you profile and mentioned stock 285/70-17’s, which is why I assumed a Rubicon Wrangler.

2.

3. What's the backspace and/or offset of the aftermarket 9.5" wide wheels? It's a shame to have to use spacers with new wheels. You'd have to use spacers that are at least wide enough to clear the factory lug studs, so they'd have to be about 1.75" thick.

4. I'm admittedly not familiar with the Gladiators. I know they are JL from the front bumper to the b-pillars, but I've never looked into the rear end differences. I do know that they are meant to handle a higher payload and towing capacity, which explains the stiffer ride when empty.

The only way I can think of making it both softer and more stable at the same time, is a set of adjustable shocks and a thicker rear sway bar. The adjustable shocks would allow you to soften them when empty, but be able to stiffen them back up when loaded or towing. The thicker sway bar would make it more resistant to body roll, at the expense of a bit of rear axle articulation.

 

[James Cole]

1. Oh, you have JL listed under vehicles in you profile and mentioned stock 285/70-17’s, which is why I assumed a Rubicon Wrangler.

2.

3. What's the backspace and/or offset of the aftermarket 9.5" wide wheels? It's a shame to have to use spacers with new wheels. You'd have to use spacers that are at least wide enough to clear the factory lug studs, so they'd have to be about 1.75" thick.

4. I'm admittedly not familiar with the Gladiators. I know they are JL from the front bumper to the b-pillars, but I've never looked into the rear end differences. I do know that they are meant to handle a higher payload and towing capacity, which explains the stiffer ride when empty.

The only way I can think of making it both softer and more stable at the same time, is a set of adjustable shocks and a thicker rear sway bar. The adjustable shocks would allow you to soften them when empty, but be able to stiffen them back up when loaded or towing. The thicker sway bar would make it more resistant to body roll, at the expense of a bit of rear axle articulation.

Thanks so much! Will look into it!

 

[Headbarcode]

Thanks so much! Will look into it!

I'd imagine there would be some good info on the associated JT forum. You can't be the only one looking to do what you're looking to do.

If you're not finding anything over there that fits the bill, start your own thread. It'll at least start the conversation between a bunch of people that are more familiar with the rear suspension and chassis components. I remember reading that it was adopted from the Ram rear end.

 

[MSparks909]

Well here on the east coast trails some poke helps keep the body/fender flares away from the vehicle height ruts that often develop on the trails. Was running 4.5” backspace with 37s and now I’m on 3.5” with 40s. I hit my fenders a lot less with the 3.5” backspace wheels.

For example…Trail 16 at Windrock:

 

[Deleted User 38384]

I don't know about y'all, but amongst my friends, we call that a Mexican Mario Mart!

 

[Paluss]

A little Poke never hurt anyone

 

[AnnDee4444]

Interesting how it started with the tires under the body, and has steadily grown larger flares over time.

In relation to the body, the outside of the tire below is approximately where the inside of the tire is now...

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