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Permanently disable engine auto start stop (ESS) at stoplights?
PavementWarrior
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We the people.
PavementWarrior
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they hate it too, liberal Texans forced them to add it! (It would be more obvious I am joshing ya, if I could toss you a beer, while we smash the damn thing with a sledge, lol)
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We have NOT mandated ESS . I never heard of it until this forum . The entire idea is total lunacy , especially in a military Jeep . Imagine stopping a M-48 tank to fire , and the engine cuts off . Imagine stopping a recon Jeep in a thicket to avoid enemy , and the engine cuts off . Imagine landing a helicopter in a LZ , and the engine cuts off . Stupidest idea ever to cut off a functioning engine .
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PavementWarrior
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rofl its not a military vehicle.
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The reason why military is a good analogy , is because military is predicated on common sense . How about a submarine stopped while it fires a torpedo ; should it's engine cut off because it is stopped ? How about a civilian JK or JL 4-door stopped because of some sand or mud ; should it's engine cut off because it is stopped ? I fail to see any common sense in cutting off any engine because it is stopped . When you finish mowing one swath in a lawn , do you want your lawn mower engine to cut off ?
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I was not at all happy when I learned the 2018s had ESS. Now, I'm not so bothered by it because:
1) You can push a button to turn it off;
2) You can adjust your driving (brake pressure at stops) to control it, and in a manual (like mine) there is even more control;
3) The "mild-hybrid"/BSG which some say is coming in 2019 sounds even worse to me.
Just my opinion.
1) You can push a button to turn it off;
2) You can adjust your driving (brake pressure at stops) to control it, and in a manual (like mine) there is even more control;
3) The "mild-hybrid"/BSG which some say is coming in 2019 sounds even worse to me.
Just my opinion.
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New to the party at JL Wrangler, but not to 4W'n, This is my first Jeep after having nothing but trucks and nothing new since 2001 and can I just say for the record how much I HATE the ESS auto start stop dis-feature!!! How stupid it is that WE can not choose to permanently turn it off. As one member said, it's my $$K jeep, let me choose!! I get that the auto makers need to play their little game to meet MPG, but come on!! It's a jeep!!! I haven't even tried yet... does it do this when you are in 4WD in an off-road situation?
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They play the game so they don’t get fined. But I agree, the ESS is stupid.
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Probably not... Even the TazerJL does it by having a device attached to the OBD2 port and changing the system setting each time the car starts.
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Maybe not yet, but I would not be surprised if it got adopted by some little country. I was in Taiwan a few years ago and saw quite a few Jeeps with some sort of extended height hard top in a parking lot. I think they were JK based.
Now, on a side note... I've been to the area where this photo was taken and it is *very* flat. Why did they think that they needed to put chocks on every wheel?
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