Another way to disable Auto Stop/Start??

[Terrymo]

Ok we get it. You can afford a tape measure and a fancy finger but still can’t pull off a start stop device. Run along now and go be poor somewhere else

@nagoya10

It’s not kind when royalty taunts the peasants

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[Stagewex]

Ok we get it. You can afford a tape measure and a fancy finger but still can’t pull off a start stop device. Run along now and go be poor somewhere else

@nagoya10

Hilarious.

 

[TPadden]

I like stop/start but I usually just push the button when I get in my Jeep or sometime down the road. $0 spent.

I hate it but I always just push the button...

Tom

 

[scootertoo]

May not help those of us that already have to deal with this BS feature, but action is in the works to do away with the need.


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Yes, automatic start/stop systems may be phased out due to the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) announced plans to remove the fuel-economy credits that automakers receive for installing them. The EPA chief stated the technology is "everyone hates" and can be removed from federal incentives, which would make it less financially beneficial for manufacturers to include it in new vehicles, potentially leading to its elimination from new models.

 

[jhrodd]

Has anyone speculated on the reasoning behind the ESS defeat plunger under the hood? I can't come up with anything. I get the need for a "hood open" warning lamp. Absent this vital warning lamp you could easily find yourself driving around with your hood open. You wouldn't be able to see where you're going! This would be extremely dangerous for both you and the motoring public.

 

[Ratbert]

Has anyone speculated on the reasoning behind the ESS defeat plunger under the hood? I can't come up with anything. I get the need for a "hood open" warning lamp. Absent this vital warning lamp you could easily find yourself driving around with your hood open. You wouldn't be able to see where you're going! This would be extremely dangerous for both you and the motoring public.

Excellent question. That does seem to be unrelated to whether ESS should be enabled or not.

 

[X35]

Has anyone speculated on the reasoning behind the ESS defeat plunger under the hood? I can't come up with anything. I get the need for a "hood open" warning lamp. Absent this vital warning lamp you could easily find yourself driving around with your hood open. You wouldn't be able to see where you're going! This would be extremely dangerous for both you and the motoring public.

This is a very good question indeed. Why two identical hood sensors positioned right next to each other that perform different monitoring functions??? Surely only one sensor could perform the functions of both? It’s almost like the engineers gave a stock ESS work around, albeit without disabling the warning lamp

 

[Riperoo]

Has anyone speculated on the reasoning behind the ESS defeat plunger under the hood? I can't come up with anything. I get the need for a "hood open" warning lamp. Absent this vital warning lamp you could easily find yourself driving around with your hood open. You wouldn't be able to see where you're going! This would be extremely dangerous for both you and the motoring public.

I've been told it's for Mechanics working under the hood so that the motor doesn't shut off while diagnosing. But the same thing could be accomplished by hitting the ESS button, so I'm not really confident that is the only reason.

 

[Badkarma]

I only have the three options on J scans. I do have the bypass cable and when I went in and deactivated the two settings related to ESS it still works. The F 42 fuse is pulled, and the battery is physically missing and detach from the vehicle. We bought the vehicle used. We have had it for three years now are nearly 3 years come January last year I had to replace the main battery and that was due to numerous check engine codes popping up for different things none of which were battery or stating that the battery was bad as of Sunday, I started getting a short in the fuel pump code or failing fuel pump, along with several other power related codes. I cleared all of them and the only one that came back was the fuel pump code. Through process of elimination I determined it was the ESS causing a fluctuation in power and discovered the dilemma above that the previous owner removed the F 42 fuse physically removed the battery for the ESS.. I then went and disabled it via J scans however the prompts that I found online are different than the prompts that I have on my J scan . This jeep appears to be an early 2018 JL and it may not have the prompts. I need to disable it via systematically.

Long story short, ESS works still even with all the above done the only way I have been able to defeat it is to turn it off via the button or the hood plunger/switch method. With emissions on the way, I am trying to fix it to where there’s no codes or lights. Either the previous owner or dealer wired the ESS to the main battery and I’m in a bit of a dilemma. I guess I could spend the extra $30 to get the bypass that hooks up to the ESS switch that remembers the previous state or get a TAZER and disable it that way just wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue

 

[Djkav]

Hello there... Do you have any tips on how to actually remove the trim panel below the steering column without permanently messing it up? I have a 22 JLU Rubicon and the panel is quite large and appears to be married to the flexible boot around the column. I am trying to get the SGW bypass cable and extension cable installed.

If I was local to you I would have no problem stopping by your place to hook it up for you free of charge. It took me less than 5 minutes to get mine installed. I removed the trim panel below the steering column for greater access. I kind of laid on my right shoulder to get in there.

Unfortunately I’m in eastern PA. The closest I’ll be to you will be Hatteras NC between Christmas and New Years later this year.

 

[Wabujitsu]

Hello there... Do you have any tips on how to actually remove the trim panel below the steering column without permanently messing it up? I have a 22 JLU Rubicon and the panel is quite large and appears to be married to the flexible boot around the column. I am trying to get the SGW bypass cable and extension cable installed.

DJ, it’s not married to the boot. I have had mine off a handful of times for various installs. A plastic panel tool works, although I no longer use one. I just grab the bottom of the panel and vigorously snatch it off and out.

 

[Cartman]

You don't need to take the panel down to get to the connectors. But if you still want to take it down, you have to go step by step.

 

[Djkav]

DJ, it’s not married to the boot. I have had mine off a handful of times for various installs. A plastic panel tool works, although I no longer use one. I just grab the bottom of the panel and vigorously snatch it off and out.

Thanks for the info sir.. FCA doesn't make this easy. I will wait until it warms up here in MI as it's quite cold and I don't want the plastic to be so brittle and cold that I end up breaking whatever tabs are behind it.

 

[FF5Cobra]

on my 2025 if selecting the fan speed on heater manually from auto ess does’nt work.
also if useing just enough brake pressure to hold you at a red light,ess does’nt work. Push brake harder, ess does kick in.
with no temp controls selected or turned off ess function seems to be determined by amount of pressure on brake pedal.
ess does’nt work kick in I just use finger to disable.

as a new jeep owner haveing difficult time understanding the important need to disable the ess function when a simple push of a button same as starting engine,a push of a button is so important?

I doupt disabling this function has any relation to aux battery going south.
belove real issue with aux battery if early failure is aux ( lithium) battery and main ( fm/ lead acid) battery require different charging rate profiles.

I know when switching from lead acid to lithium in my golf cart.chargers and charge rates,amps,volts, were not interchangeable

altenator charges to main battery specs, not aux battery specs.

just my thoughts as a new owner

 

[Terrymo]

Hello there... Do you have any tips on how to actually remove the trim panel below the steering column without permanently messing it up? I have a 22 JLU Rubicon and the panel is quite large and appears to be married to the flexible boot around the column. I am trying to get the SGW bypass cable and extension cable installed.

The damage could come when you reinstall the panel and don’t have the little alignment tabs that the white clips attach to on the back of the panel aligned correctly with the slots in the dash.

If, for example in frustration, you were to not have a bottom tab with its clip aligned in the slot on the dash and hit the panel with the heel of your hand (imagine Bruce Lee here) to to force it in place, you might deform that molded piece to the point the white clip won’t stay attached to it, Then after buying a new one, a year or so later, because you’re a slow leaner, you might stupidly repeat the martial arts heel of palm strike, and bend that exact same tab on your new panel.

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