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[Powelligator]

Seeing the thread mentioning the sunsetting of the manual Rubi for now, I was wondering if you could pull the stats on the 4.88 gear option by color and body (jl/jlu)? I am curious as to how many have been built/given sheets.

Yeah, this would be interesting to know. The 4.88's as an option started in the '22 model year and I guess I never realized it was restricted to Rubicons only. So the distribution that might be interesting know would be Rubicons compared to the rest of the models, then below that manual transmission Rubicons, then below that the 4.88 option. For model year 2022 the 4.88's appear only to have been available for 6 months, there might not even be 1,000 built is my guess. Not a lot of dealers would have ordered those either for stock orders, the vast majority would have been Jeep enthusiasts who know what they have in mind for their ride.

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[schwizzie]

I ordered a Rubi with 4.88s back in early April. Fingers crossed it will be built… and that my order is among the fortunate few that are built sometime soon haha…

 

[Chadillac]

I ordered a Rubi with 4.88s back in early April. Fingers crossed it will be built… and that my order is among the fortunate few that are built sometime soon haha…

Me too. I ordered a 2-door with 4.88s on March 8th. Still in D status.

 

[TriumphJeepster]

Me too. I ordered a 2-door with 4.88s on March 8th. Still in D status.

March 18th here. D status

 

[BrokenDana35]

March 18th here. D status

Jan 26th here, still in D ?

 

[ChuckQue]

So, I’ve been regularly checking inventory via the Jeep website. My search criteria usually consist of Rubicon, 4 doors, eco diesel and color matches hard top with a 250 mile radius from my hometown of La Mirada, California. For the last couple of weeks I’ve not found much out there, maybe a handful of Rubicons with ANY engine option.

This morning, my search came back with almost zero Rubicons but a TON of High Tides, High Altitudes and TWO door Rubicons. All either “In Transit” or “Being Built”.

Thoughts @Ratbert ?

 

[somerset20]

Hi Ratbert, I checked cryptostickers and found not much progress on Rubicon 4xe. Can you please run a report on Rubicon 4xe when you have a chance? Thanks.

 

[bjm00se]

Let's see if this makes sense:

month	# sequence numbers	# build sheets	% w/build sheets	# domestic build sheets	# domestic window stickers	% domestic in progress
Oct '21	12,400​	11,650​	94.0​	10,176​	9,862​	3.1​
Nov '21	13,099​	11,438​	87.3​	10,280​	10,014​	2.6​
Dec '21	32,583​	28,340​	87.0​	18,853​	18,674​	0.9​
Jan '22	30,742​	23,628​	76.9​	16,877​	16,597​	1.7​
Feb '22	24,976​	12,535​	50.2​	9,163​	8,628​	5.8​
Mar '22	22,569​	2,361​	10.5​	2,085​	1,645​	21.1​
Apr '22	​	25​	​	17​	12​	29.4​

Hi John,
You ran this on 4/26.

Can you run it again tomorrow, 5/10, which will be two weeks later? I'd like to look at a new linear progression.

 

[Ratbert]

Hey @Ratbert , can you pull how many 392's have been ordered overall?

Almost as many 392s as diesels:

engine	count	percent
2.0L	50,964​	51​
3.6L	42,388​	42​
3.0L	3,860​	4​
6.4L	3,623​	4​

 

[Ratbert]

Aloha @Ratbert! Sorry if you've already done this, but can you run numbers on how long the 4xe's take to go from buildsheet to sticker? Based on what I've read, ALL 4xe's go to JB for custom hood decals (plus any other additional parts ordered). Just wondering the typical time us 4xe owners should anticipate waiting for our stickers after buildsheet are issued.

Thanks again for all that you do.

They definitely seem to be getting behind when trying to complete 4xes. They started catching up about mid-April, but then...

day	build sheets	window stickers	in progress
2022-03-19	2,948​	2,453​	495​
2022-03-20	49​	37​	507​
2022-03-21	56​	32​	531​
2022-03-22	38​	39​	530​
2022-03-23	107​	2​	635​
2022-03-24	4​	0​	639​
2022-03-25	53​	0​	692​
2022-03-26	0​	141​	551​
2022-03-27	2​	353​	200​
2022-03-28	71​	44​	227​
2022-03-29	50​	42​	235​
2022-03-30	26​	114​	147​
2022-03-31	10​	14​	143​
2022-04-01	63​	43​	163​
2022-04-02	0​	29​	134​
2022-04-03	0​	20​	114​
2022-04-04	63​	26​	151​
2022-04-05	17​	3​	165​
2022-04-06	30​	22​	173​
2022-04-07	25​	40​	158​
2022-04-08	52​	30​	180​
2022-04-10	79​	88​	171​
2022-04-11	3​	2​	172​
2022-04-12	29​	65​	136​
2022-04-13	29​	16​	149​
2022-04-14	57​	60​	146​
2022-04-15	4​	13​	137​
2022-04-16	5​	50​	92​
2022-04-17	0​	17​	75​
2022-04-18	30​	4​	101​
2022-04-19	72​	9​	164​
2022-04-20	0​	1​	163​
2022-04-21	98​	43​	218​
2022-04-22	50​	22​	246​
2022-04-23	38​	32​	252​
2022-04-24	18​	34​	236​
2022-04-25	71​	17​	290​
2022-04-26	164​	38​	416​
2022-04-27	103​	31​	488​
2022-04-28	93​	44​	537​
2022-04-29	33​	32​	538​
2022-04-30	30​	87​	481​
2022-05-01	13​	47​	447​
2022-05-02	119​	1​	565​
2022-05-03	44​	28​	581​
2022-05-04	5​	120​	466​
2022-05-05	2​	6​	462​
2022-05-06	2​	26​	438​
2022-05-07	0​	8​	430​

It looks like 4xes were initially being completed faster than others (over 3 weeks faster), but that seems to have changed.

order week	min weeks	avg weeks	max weeks	started	not started	avg weeks comparison
2021-10-07	1​	6.4​	20​	5,028​	283​	-3.3​
2021-10-14	1​	6.7​	20​	2,747​	204​	-3.0​
2021-10-21	1​	7.0​	20​	2,802​	149​	-1.2​
2021-10-28	1​	7.9​	20​	2,837​	140​	-1.0​
2021-11-04	1​	8.5​	20​	2,608​	368​	-0.9​
2021-11-11	1​	6.6​	20​	2,779​	197​	-2.1​
2021-11-18	1​	7.6​	20​	2,638​	338​	-2.1​
2021-11-25	1​	7.3​	20​	3,334​	538​	-2.2​
2021-12-02	1​	7.0​	20​	7,112​	294​	-3.9​
2021-12-09	1​	9.2​	20​	6,844​	562​	-2.0​
2021-12-16	1​	10.0​	20​	6,470​	936​	-0.8​
2021-12-23	2​	9.9​	19​	4,958​	967​	-2.2​
2021-12-30	0​	8.9​	18​	6,060​	1,294​	-1.7​
2022-01-06	2​	8.6​	17​	6,268​	1,048​	-1.1​
2022-01-13	0​	8.2​	16​	6,025​	1,291​	-0.8​
2022-01-20	0​	7.7​	15​	5,585​	1,731​	-0.7​
2022-01-27	0​	6.7​	14​	5,068​	1,838​	-0.2​
2022-02-03	2​	7.4​	13​	4,522​	1,719​	-1.1​
2022-02-10	1​	7.3​	12​	3,834​	2,407​	+0.9​
2022-02-17	0​	6.5​	11​	3,512​	2,729​	-0.3​
2022-02-24	0​	7.1​	10​	2,581​	3,143​	+0.2​
2022-03-03	1​	6.8​	9​	1,449​	3,457​	-0.1​
2022-03-10	1​	6.4​	8​	1,278​	3,628​	-0.1​
2022-03-17	1​	5.7​	7​	1,054​	3,852​	-0.8​
2022-03-24	1​	4.8​	6​	1,029​	3,877​	+0.4​
2022-03-31	0​	4.3​	5​	997​	5,668​	+0.5​
2022-04-07	1​	3.5​	4​	1,008​	6,088​	+0.0​
2022-04-14	1​	2.9​	3​	371​	6,725​	+2.9​
2022-04-21	0​	1.5​	2​	100​	6,996​	+0.5​
2022-04-28	0​	0.9​	1​	17​	​	+0.9​

 

[Ratbert]

@Ratbert,
Can you tell if orders with select-trac (ST) and limited slip differential (LSD) are being held up for any reason? Specifically on Sahara Altitude 4doors. I know the 392 also comes with the ST but has different diffs. Just wondering if LSD orders are being built.

Is there a way to compare Sahara Altitude builds to Sahara Altitude builds with ST/LSD?

Thanks
Thor20003

I currently don't have that level of querying built-in. I can, however, show all selec-trac and what seems to be LSD:

Instances of 2.72:1 Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD Sys over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	in progress
2022-03-19	9,301​	8,499​	802​
2022-03-20	121​	71​	852​
2022-03-21	190​	130​	912​
2022-03-22	128​	82​	958​
2022-03-23	349​	3​	1,304​
2022-03-24	9​	0​	1,313​
2022-03-25	198​	0​	1,511​
2022-03-26	0​	252​	1,259​
2022-03-27	4​	723​	540​
2022-03-28	226​	250​	516​
2022-03-29	198​	158​	556​
2022-03-30	196​	171​	581​
2022-03-31	59​	77​	563​
2022-04-01	222​	272​	513​
2022-04-02	0​	97​	416​
2022-04-03	0​	58​	358​
2022-04-04	258​	183​	433​
2022-04-05	108​	58​	483​
2022-04-06	101​	51​	533​
2022-04-07	105​	91​	547​
2022-04-08	132​	109​	570​
2022-04-10	332​	312​	590​
2022-04-11	14​	11​	593​
2022-04-12	62​	117​	538​
2022-04-13	103​	79​	562​
2022-04-14	241​	305​	498​
2022-04-15	70​	62​	506​
2022-04-16	79​	105​	480​
2022-04-17	0​	21​	459​
2022-04-18	154​	4​	609​
2022-04-19	207​	91​	725​
2022-04-20	0​	10​	715​
2022-04-21	227​	305​	637​
2022-04-22	90​	82​	645​
2022-04-23	62​	115​	592​
2022-04-24	39​	100​	531​
2022-04-25	108​	89​	550​
2022-04-26	261​	174​	637​
2022-04-27	190​	157​	670​
2022-04-28	161​	222​	609​
2022-04-29	77​	69​	617​
2022-04-30	44​	118​	543​
2022-05-01	28​	36​	535​
2022-05-02	181​	36​	680​
2022-05-03	142​	164​	658​
2022-05-04	105​	257​	506​
2022-05-05	17​	22​	501​
2022-05-06	58​	60​	499​
2022-05-07	0​	27​	472​

Instances of Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	in progress
2022-03-19	13,289​	12,031​	1,258​
2022-03-20	173​	118​	1,313​
2022-03-21	235​	272​	1,276​
2022-03-22	222​	169​	1,329​
2022-03-23	464​	4​	1,789​
2022-03-24	17​	0​	1,806​
2022-03-25	205​	0​	2,011​
2022-03-26	0​	324​	1,687​
2022-03-27	2​	837​	852​
2022-03-28	276​	253​	875​
2022-03-29	264​	248​	891​
2022-03-30	246​	199​	938​
2022-03-31	88​	85​	941​
2022-04-01	320​	353​	908​
2022-04-02	1​	96​	813​
2022-04-03	0​	47​	766​
2022-04-04	369​	285​	850​
2022-04-05	190​	84​	956​
2022-04-06	168​	102​	1,022​
2022-04-07	134​	133​	1,023​
2022-04-08	187​	165​	1,045​
2022-04-10	361​	320​	1,086​
2022-04-11	3​	4​	1,085​
2022-04-12	83​	110​	1,058​
2022-04-13	140​	40​	1,158​
2022-04-14	333​	854​	637​
2022-04-15	119​	98​	658​
2022-04-16	128​	246​	540​
2022-04-17	0​	32​	508​
2022-04-18	251​	17​	742​
2022-04-19	269​	204​	807​
2022-04-20	0​	14​	793​
2022-04-21	249​	425​	617​
2022-04-22	111​	108​	620​
2022-04-23	74​	123​	571​
2022-04-24	55​	136​	490​
2022-04-25	174​	104​	560​
2022-04-26	345​	258​	647​
2022-04-27	235​	143​	739​
2022-04-28	243​	233​	749​
2022-04-29	106​	80​	775​
2022-04-30	93​	173​	695​
2022-05-01	34​	51​	678​
2022-05-02	315​	46​	947​
2022-05-03	206​	212​	941​
2022-05-04	251​	309​	883​
2022-05-05	42​	37​	888​
2022-05-06	193​	167​	914​
2022-05-07	1​	63​	852​

 

[Ratbert]

Seeing the thread mentioning the sunsetting of the manual Rubi for now, I was wondering if you could pull the stats on the 4.88 gear option by color and body (jl/jlu)? I am curious as to how many have been built/given sheets.

Just 113 (0.1%) build sheets with 4.88 Rear Axle Ratio.

 

[Ratbert]

Ratbert, I need to know how many white 2021 Wrangler 392 with XR package were ordered. Can you tell me that please?

There are currently 271 2022 build sheets matching those details, but I have no idea how many 2021s.

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Just 113 (0.1%) build sheets with 4.88 Rear Axle Ratio.

What I am really curious about is the 'Production Evaluation Run (PER)' that I have seen. ( and is on my old build sheet) You should be able to extrapolate that as well as matching fields to determine which options Stellantis is testing. Can you provide the current database in a format that I can use pandas to do my own evaluations? I suppose I can use SQL ( which it seems like you have dumped this in) if necessary.

 

[Ratbert]

Hi John,
You ran this on 4/26.

Can you run it again tomorrow, 5/10, which will be two weeks later? I'd like to look at a new linear progression.

Here it is for today. I'll run it again tomorrow.

month	# sequence numbers	# build sheets	% w/build sheets	# domestic build sheets	# domestic window stickers	% domestic in progress
Oct 2021	12,401​	11,745​	94.7​	10,265​	10,027​	2.3​
Nov 2021	13,100​	11,833​	90.3​	10,672​	10,485​	1.8​
Dec 2021	32,584​	29,158​	89.5​	19,484​	19,265​	1.1​
Jan 2022	30,743​	24,947​	81.1​	17,740​	17,457​	1.6​
Feb 2022	24,977​	15,569​	62.3​	10,883​	10,409​	4.4​
Mar 2022	22,570​	6,225​	27.6​	4,987​	4,179​	16.2​
Apr 2022	29,801​	2,774​	9.3​	2,694​	2,107​	21.8​
May 2022	​	4​	​	4​	0​	100.0​

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