2.0T eTorque vs Non eTorque? - anyone driven both?

[FUHL]

I test drove the 2019 Rubicon 2.0 with e Torque and it didn't sync up very well.

I assume that it also had the std Rubicon 4:10 axles?

I have a 2018 2-door Rubicon. All I can say is it smooth. Love the transmission in these on road and off.

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[Germansheperd]

Battery Coolant?

There are cooling lines that run to the 48v battery pack. They go from under the hood all the way to the battery pack- so yes in effect battery coolant.

 

[Germansheperd]

Fake News Sparky.

Ok so the videos made of under the Jeeps with coolant leaking from the fittings used to cool the 48v battery pack must have been made by martians huh?

 

[jayvis]

Ok so the videos made of under the Jeeps with coolant leaking from the fittings used to cool the 48v battery pack must have been made by martians huh?

So, there were a few built with fittings that weren't tight. Definitely not a widespread issue worth worrying about. There are tons of 2.0L eTorques that have been owner tested on extreme off road trails without any issues. Extreme technology paranoia will continue to plague a small percentage of Wrangler buyers. These aren't your grandad's Jeep, thank goodness.

 

[Germansheperd]

So, there were a few built with fittings that weren't tight. Definitely not a widespread issue worth worrying about. There are tons of 2.0L eTorques that have been owner tested on extreme off road trails without any issues. Extreme technology paranoia will continue to plague a small percentage of Wrangler buyers. These aren't your grandad's Jeep, thank goodness.

First off you deny this was even a possibility. Now you claim “just a few built with fittings that weren’t tight”. Your credibility is out the window. Extreme technology paranoia? No this is a real issue. There may be a “few” documented but there are WAY more “issues” that are going unaddressed and undocumented by owners because they don’t know.

 

[Germansheperd]

Just ordered a 2020 Rubi 2.0L.

Does anybody know why the eTorque offering was removed from the Rubicons?

Yes you dodged that bullet

 

[Thinman]

Yes you dodged that bullet

That was my guess. Dodged it in my '19 Rebel as well, but luckily, by choice. Was close.

 

[AlexJeepVB]

Yes you dodged that bullet

lol, This technology is not going away. It looks as if it was removed from certain models for cost savings to push the 2.0T. Its a great set up so far and not sure why you would worry when there is a 8 year warranty on everything. Soon everything will be at least some form of mild hybrid.

 

[Punkindave]

First off you deny this was even a possibility. Now you claim “just a few built with fittings that weren’t tight”. Your credibility is out the window. Extreme technology paranoia? No this is a real issue. There may be a “few” documented but there are WAY more “issues” that are going unaddressed and undocumented by owners because they don’t know.

Fact is that these are not design flaws, and has zero to do with technology. This is an isolated assembly line quality issue, nothing more. The well documented ESS issues with the "tried and true" 3.6 ESS battery failures leaving folks stranded is another story. (the eTorque doesn't have this). Sadly my Wife just purchased a 2020 JLUR that has this stupid system, time will tell...
To be honest, if I were given the choice, I'd rather not have the eTorque complexity, but I do love the eTorque 2.0 and it's power both on and off road (even though I'm unconvinced it actually provides better MPG in my "all highway" drive.)

 

[Toycrusher]

So why won't they give us the 3.6 Etorque with a 6-speed? No need to clutch to come to a stop... 90lb/ft is more than the 3.6 makes when crawling in 4-lo... No bucking trying to idle through a parking lot... Cmon guys!

 

[Odyssey USA]

There are cooling lines that run to the 48v battery pack. They go from under the hood all the way to the battery pack- so yes in effect battery coolant.

It sounded like something someone might think goes IN the battery lol.

I know about the cooling lines and seems like there’s no statistically significant issue (more than any other possible point of failure on any optioned Jeep) in regards to reliability.

 

[Odyssey USA]

jayvis said: ↑
So, there were a few built with fittings that weren't tight. Definitely not a widespread issue worth worrying about. There are tons of 2.0L eTorques that have been owner tested on extreme off road trails without any issues. Extreme technology paranoia will continue to plague a small percentage of Wrangler buyers. These aren't your grandad's Jeep, thank goodness.

First off you deny this was even a possibility. Now you claim “just a few built with fittings that weren’t tight”. Your credibility is out the window. Extreme technology paranoia? No this is a real issue. There may be a “few” documented but there are WAY more “issues” that are going unaddressed and undocumented by owners because they don’t know.

Looks to be like there’s room for both sides to be a little wrong here but that doesn’t mean that everything either party claimed, claims, or will claim in the future will be totally wrong. That’s a little dramatic imo.

 

[Odyssey USA]

Fact is that these are not design flaws, and has zero to do with technology. This is an isolated assembly line quality issue, nothing more. The well documented ESS issues with the "tried and true" 3.6 ESS battery failures leaving folks stranded is another story. (the eTorque doesn't have this). Sadly my Wife just purchased a 2020 JLUR that has this stupid system, time will tell...
To be honest, if I were given the choice, I'd rather not have the eTorque complexity, but I do love the eTorque 2.0 and it's power both on and off road (even though I'm unconvinced it actually provides better MPG in my "all highway" drive.)

Yeah, it’s only supposed to help the with some stop and go mpg by assisting takeoff. I do wonder if you do too much, like a big city amount of stop and go driving that there may not be enough opportunities for regeneration of stored electricity due to lack of shifting regen and braking regen.

I’m not an advocate for all electric but being able to scavenge what would otherwise be wasted energy byproduct of a combustion powered vehicle, the Etorque might be worth an added battery worth of caustic material. The BSG definitely gives the best start stop I’ve experienced too.

If it all goes to hell, I’ll trade up for whatever bigger/better internal combustion engine they will still have then.

 

[AnnDee4444]

Huh... I didn't realize the 3.6 was air-cooled. Oh, wait... I guess auto manufacturers figured out how to do water-cooling literally over 100 years ago.

 

[Punkindave]

Yeah, it’s only supposed to help the with some stop and go mpg by assisting takeoff. I do wonder if you do too much, like a big city amount of stop and go driving that there may not be enough opportunities for regeneration of stored electricity due to lack of shifting regen and braking regen.

I’m not an advocate for all electric but being able to scavenge what would otherwise be wasted energy byproduct of a combustion powered vehicle, the Etorque might be worth an added battery worth of caustic material. The BSG definitely gives the best start stop I’ve experienced too.

If it all goes to hell, I’ll trade up for whatever bigger/better internal combustion engine they will still have then.

Problem is that the eTorque doesn't use the energy from regenerative braking or slowing, it's only a "mild hybrid" that just charges off the engine with a "belt driven motor generator" (BSG)

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