No more 392?

[Ratbert]

Honestly I’m expecting
1. 2k price increase
2. A couple new colors
3. Standard LED lights
4. New grille
5. Streamline the engine choices, maybe eliminate the 3.6

And that’s about it. The Bronco didn’t have a real negative effect on sales so why change anything.

Just $2k price increase after including $1,600 for LEDs, $900 for AEB (most likely part of the Advanced Safety Group), plus inflation? $2k seems slightly optimistic.

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[plex]

I imagine there were some conversations 100 years ago:

I missed the horse drawn Jeep, you know these big horses with bright blue eyes with all nice leather belt, god damn these gasoline people who will only buy a 2 liter bottle gas from a pharmacy store. I will die before I drive one of these!

 

[Ratbert]

I think Jeep planned the 392 for a short 3-year production run. With roughly 6k built per year the 392 will be a future collectible.

Only 4,221 build sheets so far for 2022.

 

[2nd 392]

California DOES NOT have a "huge surplus" of solar. They have already warned their population of brownouts and blackouts as they don't have enough capacity to supply normal demand...much less to plug in a slug of new EVs.
https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisc...icials-warn-summer-power-shortages-blackouts/

Solar capacity is about to go a little higher, I just accepted the government 26% bribe and contracted a large system with battery back up. I’m So Ashamed of myself To make me feel even worse I had a fleeting thought that I should have gotten a 4XE, not a 392. Has the Dark Side taken me over?

 

[SouthValleyPerformance]

Not unexpected but saw this article and it confirms the 392 is dead.

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/05/23/jeep-the-v8-is-dead/amp/

Hopefully. Terribly inefficient motor.

 

[JLUW75]

It's not dead now, but if they put a HO Hurricane or HO Hurricane 4xe, who's gonna care. Just the HO Hurricane is like 500/575.

The Straight six may not fit in the engine bay so it won't come for the JL. It will be the performance motor for the next-gen jeep maybe.

 

[Heimkehr]

The Straight six may not fit in the engine bay so it won't come for the JL.

I've been thinking about that matter. We know that the JL's dimensions were stretched a bit to accommodate the 850RE transmission. Would said tweaks allow for concurrent installation of the new GME forced induction six in the current iteration of the Wrangler? Time will tell. Certainly we could hope to expect it in the next generation vehicle.

 

[Alleycat392]

Only 4,221 build sheets so far for 2022.

And only 938 392 XR’s in 2021.

 

[RubiSc0tt]

I agree it is biased but it was based off the interview with Jeep execs from this article which solidified it in my opinion. According to this we probably won’t see trackhawks anymore either.

https://www.motor1.com/news/581642/jeep-wagoneer-4xe-hybrid/

Trackhawk has been dead since... 2020? It was limited, and was going to get replaced with a limited run of the Hellcat Durango. At least, that's what I remembered reading at the time.

Welcome to old news. All this was revealed before. This article does not point out that they have already admitted to finishing out the run of V8's in current platform vehicles through 2023. Clickbait article that is rehashing a bunch of older articles from a month ago and more.

That's what we call irresponsible journalism, as is most clickbait.

 

[Jammer]

I thought I read article like so many years from now every vehicle has to get like so many miles per gallon or they can't make them. so I can't imagine them making the hellacat or the hemi anymore

 

[ChuckQue]

A.) Look at a map, California isn't anywhere near New England. Both areas have vastly different sources for electricity.
B.) California has a huge surplus of solar, charge during the day, when electric rates are cheaper.

Living in SoCal, I can tell you from actual experience this isn’t true. Charging stations aren’t planted at every workplace, so the vast majority of people won’t be able to charge at work. So they will be forced to charge when they get home, which typically coincides with peak use hours. Not everyone can afford $40k worth of solar panels and battery storage, plus whatever the EV charging equipment costs.

 

[Heimkehr]

Living in SoCal, I can tell you from actual experience this isn’t true. Charging stations aren’t planted at every workplace, so the vast majority of people won’t be able to charge at work. So they will be forced to charge when they get home, which typically coincides with peak use hours.

Isn't peak usage generally considered to be business hours? I had a digital "time of day" electric meter installed precisely to take advantage of off-peak usage (i.e., reduced rates) which begins at 6PM. Our house is all electric.

Careful use of the use of the water heater and the dryer, for laundry, by themselves returned a noticeable savings on the monthly bill. I'd wager the same could be true when recharging an electric vehicle after arriving home each weekday.

 

[Pinky Tuscadero]

For the insane markup vs a normal Jeep I can't imagine this to be anything but a temporary shortage of parts and stopping early for the '23 change over
I'm not buying one but I do like to dream a bit
Either these Hemi's are coming back for '23 or that new powerhouse engine which is even better... either way doesn't matter
The demand is there so regardless of who from Jeep told or didn't tell some tree hugging sissy in pantyhose about the future, the company is always changing but the chase is the same - money, and these overpriced Jeeps are certainly profit centers so they will not be killed
Long live the Hemi !!!

 

[ChuckQue]

Isn't peak usage generally considered to be business hours? I had a digital "time of day" electric meter installed precisely to take advantage of off-peak usage (i.e., reduced rates) which begins at 6PM. Our house is all electric.

Careful use of the use of the water heater and the dryer, for laundry, by themselves returned a noticeable savings on the monthly bill. I'd wager the same could be true when recharging an electric vehicle after arriving home each weekday.

Used to be, but with solar generating during the day they consider peak residential usage (at least billing wise..) after 1700-ish. The tier for those hours costs considerably more.

We installed solar last year with a 10kwh battery. During the day we don’t import anything from the grid, even during the hottest days. We export our excess and charge the battery. Around 1630-1700 hours when the solar production tapers down our battery kicks in and supplements the grid power we use until it’s at 30% capacity (usually around 2100-2200). It works amazingly but it also cost us $40k (we paid cash).

We love it, but it’s a luxury. Considering the sheer size of the batteries in some of the all electric cars if I was to charge when I got home from work at 1730, you can see where we’d have an issue. Laundry, dishwashers, etc get run in the evening or overnight. We intend to put a high CFM gable fan in both attics to take some of the load off the A/C and further reduce our usage.

 

[J_Winslow]

the new inline 3.0 twin turbo will be taking over for the SRT line. I hate seeing this happening since you know. electric batteries just dont last and then they get stuff in the earth to ruin it more than a little C.O emissions. anyways i wont get into that. The Ceo's have already said full electric will not come to jeep for a very long time if it ever does. Hybrids are good but still ICE will be needed as our power grids cannot handle the increase of power production to keep up with the demand. California alone is already telling you, you cannot charge your car between 2PM-9Pm daily due to grid restraints. and currently we do not have the water source to make more power via Hydro. electric. this whole ordeal is stupid

Umm the left coast has the pacific ocean that it can use for hydroelectric power and desalination plants. The reality is they would work so its absolutely out of tge question to build them.

Just food for thought

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