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[TX_Ovrlnd]

I'm sticking with the plastic rear bumper for weight savings because I'm a poor!

Edited for truth.

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[Chile1]

As opposed to the ultra-tough factory steel bumpers? You keep thinking you’re the shit, when in fact you just keep giving us more reasons to laugh at you. It’s one thing if you keep your mouth shut, but to come in and try and tout how awesome your gear is is quite another thing all together.

You and your buddy jaymz have serious serious inferiority complex problems. Good night ladies?

 

[word302]

You and your buddy jaymz have serious serious inferiority complex problems. Good night ladies?

Nope, just been around the block a few times and have personal experience with the crap you’re touting as the best.

 

[Cthehentz]

FOCUS, this thread is about budget friendly lift kits. And stop trashing other folks rides.....

 

[Five Seasons]

Its always the same posters on here. I don't even have to read the user name and I can tell its word302 posting. Every thread is full of bad recommendations and unexplained ridiculous opinions. Maybe its a jeep thing.

 

[word302]

Its always the same posters on here. I don't even have to read the user name and I can tell its word302 posting. Every thread is full of bad recommendations and unexplained ridiculous opinions. Maybe its a jeep thing.

Which recommendation did I make that was bad? What recommendations have you made?

 

[Five Seasons]

I don't engage with people who have proven time and time again that they lack the capacity to learn. Especially ones who are too lazy to read the thread they are posting in. You have already wasted enough of everyone's time.

 

[word302]

I don't engage with people who have proven time and time again that they lack the capacity to learn. Especially ones who are too lazy to read the thread they are posting in. You have already wasted enough of everyone's time.

So once again you come in with 0 to add to the conversation yet try and belittle mine and other’s knowledge and experience. Cool.

 

[longfiredragon]

Hey all

I kinda knew lifts are a little of a touchy subject. Some are going to have an absolute preference and I don't think they are necessary wrong most have just stated from their experience what has worked well for them. Others just want to offer suggestions on what they felt could work for the type of off-roading I do and budget I have, and has also worked well from their experience. (Although it might only be a spacer lift to get by until other mods can be done) From what I have learned NONE of you are wrong.

Not trying to get in the middle of anything here, but I am the OP.

WORD302 I am pretty sure I get what you are saying, do it once and done and have what most would consider a complete lift done right. I understand that and honestly I would love to get a really nice complete lift and I am sure I would be really happy with everything.

Five Seasons, I get what your saying as well. There are alternatives that may get me by, do everything I want right now for less $ and down the road as budget see's fit make changes. I may spend a little more over time to get where I want but it may get me by until I can go for the whole kit and cubital.

My feeling on the Mopar lift. I think Mopar engineers came up with what they felt would just barley work, and be able to offer people the option of buying Mopar parts and keeping their warranty (If, I believe you have them install it) If there is anything good about the Mopar lift it is that you keep your warranty and they threw in some decent shocks. However for the money you end up at, no, you can for sure do better. But I do understand it, and to each his own.

My preference, thus far, in order if money was no issue.

Complete Lifts.

Metalcloak
Rockkrawler
JKS-Nice kit made in the USA.
AEV

Spacer kit-with shock extensions, basically a complete spacer kit with everything to do a good job and get you by.

So far the best one I have seen is the Teraflex I listed earlier (Their stuff is made in China though) still pretty good reviews and people seem to be pretty happy with their products. Still kinda looking around though.

Thanks again, all.

 

[longfiredragon]

I do have a question concerning spacer lifts with shock extensions. Keeping in mind I might not know what the hell I am talking about.

All of the kits (That I can remember looking at) the shock extensions seem to just be a cheap flat piece of metal bent to dimensions with a hole drilled in them. Trying to apply common sense here, it seems that this would possible allow flex, maybe even movement in semi harsh off-road conditions, and that this would not be a good thing. It seems to me that if you have to use extensions on any shock that you would not want any movement there, witch could be really bad.

Reason for the question is the Teraflex kit seems to be the only one I have seen that they put a little more engineering into and it appears their shock extensions are a diff. design that are beefier would work much better, be stronger, and allow for less flex or movement in this area.

I am only going by the appearance of the designs, and common sense.

Thanks

 

[TX_Ovrlnd]

It sounds like you are kind of wanting a full lift but still on the fence. I would try the wrnagler out on the trails you are thinking about doing first. Then just save up the money and get what you really want down the line (if you find you need it), the wranglers are very capable offroad as is. It didn't sound like you were going to be flexing it to extremes from earlier posts. Any time extensions or spacers are brought into play it is a harsher ride from what could be (my experience on this is from a Procomp lift), of the spacer kits I think AEV and Tera Flex would probably be a nicer ride. I keep going back and forth between 3 companies myself. Two offer base kits that can be upgraded later which is probably what I would do if I go with them.

 

[Roky]

If you’re feeling a difference in ride quality with spacer lifts then there’s something else in play…… a spacer does not change spring rate. As long as you use extension on the shock the ride will be exactly the same as stock just a little higher……

 

[TX_Ovrlnd]

If you’re feeling a difference in ride quality with spacer lifts then there’s something else in play…… a spacer does not change spring rate. As long as you use extension on the shock the ride will be exactly the same as stock just a little higher……

I was pretty lift-ignorant at the time (maybe I still am lol) so it probably did not have the correct extensions or any extensions. I also had it installed by 4 Wheel Parts (rookie mistake) so I am sure I was lucky my truck did not fall apart on me after. I just remember it riding rougher than it had before and my tires were definitely not the cause. I do know I will not ever use a spacer lift again; buy once, cry once.

 

[GATORB8]

I do have a question concerning spacer lifts with shock extensions. Keeping in mind I might not know what the hell I am talking about.

All of the kits (That I can remember looking at) the shock extensions seem to just be a cheap flat piece of metal bent to dimensions with a hole drilled in them. Trying to apply common sense here, it seems that this would possible allow flex, maybe even movement in semi harsh off-road conditions, and that this would not be a good thing. It seems to me that if you have to use extensions on any shock that you would not want any movement there, witch could be really bad.

Reason for the question is the Teraflex kit seems to be the only one I have seen that they put a little more engineering into and it appears their shock extensions are a diff. design that are beefier would work much better, be stronger, and allow for less flex or movement in this area.

I am only going by the appearance of the designs, and common sense.

Thanks

Early on, I used the TF shock extensions for the same reason you list, they are hands down the most solid and best looking. They look as good in person as in the pictures, and they are reasonable priced.

I don't know that I would worry about the others, as long as the metal itself doesn't flex, they use the same attachment points. All the ones I've seen on the market connect at the same points: the two sides of the shock attachment with a single bolt, and a third at the factory (drain?) hole on the bottom of the shock mount.

 

[GATORB8]

Hey all

I kinda knew lifts are a little of a touchy subject. Some are going to have an absolute preference and I don't think they are necessary wrong most have just stated from their experience what has worked well for them. Others just want to offer suggestions on what they felt could work for the type of off-roading I do and budget I have, and has also worked well from their experience. (Although it might only be a spacer lift to get by until other mods can be done) From what I have learned NONE of you are wrong.

Not trying to get in the middle of anything here, but I am the OP.

WORD302 I am pretty sure I get what you are saying, do it once and done and have what most would consider a complete lift done right. I understand that and honestly I would love to get a really nice complete lift and I am sure I would be really happy with everything.

Five Seasons, I get what your saying as well. There are alternatives that may get me by, do everything I want right now for less $ and down the road as budget see's fit make changes. I may spend a little more over time to get where I want but it may get me by until I can go for the whole kit and cubital.

My feeling on the Mopar lift. I think Mopar engineers came up with what they felt would just barley work, and be able to offer people the option of buying Mopar parts and keeping their warranty (If, I believe you have them install it) If there is anything good about the Mopar lift it is that you keep your warranty and they threw in some decent shocks. However for the money you end up at, no, you can for sure do better. But I do understand it, and to each his own.

My preference, thus far, in order if money was no issue.

Complete Lifts.

Metalcloak
Rockkrawler
JKS-Nice kit made in the USA.
AEV

Spacer kit-with shock extensions, basically a complete spacer kit with everything to do a good job and get you by.

So far the best one I have seen is the Teraflex I listed earlier (Their stuff is made in China though) still pretty good reviews and people seem to be pretty happy with their products. Still kinda looking around though.

Thanks again, all.

Just a couple notes.

I know it was mentioned earlier but don't forget about backspacing. That alone can narrow your choices.

Thinking down the road and building that suspension setup slowly will help you stay on budget and prevent buying the same part twice.

If you're going to eventually go to springs, go straight there and skip the spacers. Not because the spacers won't work, but because you'll be wasting the spacer money and the springs aren't that much more. (A set of MC springs is in the $400 range IIRC). Further a 2.5" spring lift and a 2.5" spacer lift will net you at least 1" difference. Spring lifts are based on Rubi height and tend to run even higher, spacers will give you the exact advertised.

Control arms will be the backspacing determining factor, so you need to pick a manufacturer that works with your current and future wheel selections. If you value on road manners more than clearance you could look at geometry brackets.

Until you swap to 35s, you probably won't need bump for tire clearance, but you may need it for shock protection. I highly recommend adjustable bumps for the front that you can adjust with the springs in place (MC and others have these, or you can just drill out some hockey pucks).

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