JL Crash Tests

[thecritter]

My brothers family wife and two kids were in a YJ wreck. Completely totaled the Jeep and Altima that hit them head on. Jeep tumbled twice end over end pulling a small trailer. They did not walk away but are still with us and fine now titanium enforcement in legs.. had they been in a JL don't think would have had half of the injuries but had been in a car all would have been lost. Hitting a smaller car MASS will always be your friend, not so much a wall. Kids in back seat were banged up but nothing broke, he and wife broke legs and feet and lady in the car is still in hospital years later.

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[stangken]

Is the IHSA or NHTSA ever going to test the JL? Anyone know why it hasn’t been tested yet?

 

[jronnblom]

The Euro NCAP test results came out today. Not looking good.

 

[Sean L]

The Euro NCAP test results came out today. Not looking good.

Aside from the lack of rear side impact airbags, it looks like everything works well. do they have a full report?

 

[WXman]

The control arms folded like tooth picks and allowed the entire front axle to cave in the floor pan. Scary stuff. But that's the nature of body on frame vehicles with solid axles. If you wanna' play, you gotta' pay.

The other interesting thing is how stiff and rigid the hardtop and center section of the vehicle is, which you could see transferred a ton of energy into the occupants in that frontal collision. Ouch.

 

[Sgt Beavis]

It should be noted that NCAP is MUCH stricter than IIHS crash standards. They are quicker to push for new technology and they have pedestrian safety requirements that are nearly non existent in the US. Also, they deduct points for a lack of crash avoidance systems. Its a good test but the Wrangler will never do well on it.

Did we ever get IIHS tests on the JLU?

 

[Sean L]

allowed the entire front axle to cave in the floor pan.

What part did you see this? I'm still trying to figure this out.

 

[don4v4n]

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/12/euro-ncap-one-star-new-jeep-wrangler-zero-fiat-panda/

 

[InvertedLogic]

The control arms folded like tooth picks and allowed the entire front axle to cave in the floor pan. Scary stuff

As long as it stays out of the occupant area, I don't see why it's scary.

 

[DanW]

Government crash tests, IMO, are not a good nor accurate measure of vehicle safety in the real world. Injury claims should be accounted for, and they aren't. What percentage of crashes are against a barrier? Few. Like @thecritter said, mass is your friend.

You are going to be in a bad collision with another car. You make the choice. Be in the 1 star (Euro) Jeep Wrangler or a 5 star Honda Civic. The vehicle you don't choose will be the one to collide with you. I would choose the Jeep, every time.

The JK, over its history, has one of the lowest injury claim rates in the industry, yet it wasn't the highest rated by government testing.

Not only are their tests, again in my opinion, not representative of the real world, they are politically skewed. They deliberately set it up so that a tiny car can get a top rating while a large vehicle may not. They deliberately try to steer people away from larger, less fuel efficient vehicles with the way they try to level the playing field. The reality is that the field is simply not level.

Rant over. My money says the JL will also produce relatively low injury claims just like the JK does.

 

[The_Phew]

Is it wrong that my chief takeaway from the video is how much better I like the Euro hood than the US Sport/Sahara hood?

 

[garfieldtcat]

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/jeep/wrangler/34192

"In the frontal offset test, the connection between the A-pillar and the trans-facia beam was damaged in a way that indicated the structure would be unable to withstand higher loads. Similarly, deformation of the footwell showed that the structure had reached the limit of its integrity. Although dummy readings indicated good protection of the knees and femurs of the driver and passenger dummy, structures in the dashboard were thought to present a risk to occupants of different sizes and to those sitting in different positions, and protection of this body area was rated as marginal. Dummy readings, together with the penalty applied for the unstable bodyshell, resulted in protection of the driver chest being rated as weak. In the full-width rigid barrier test, dummy readings of chest compression showed marginal protection of the driver chest. For the rear passenger, dummy readings showed weak protection of the neck and, combined with high shoulder-belt loads, poor protection of the chest. In the side barrier test, the Wrangler scored maximum points, with good protection of all critical body areas. No pole test was conducted on the Wrangler. Tests on the front seats and head restraints indicated good protection against whiplash injuries in the event of a rear-end collision. A geometric assessment of the rear seats also indicated good whiplash protection. The Wrangler is not equipped with an autonomous emergency braking (AEB) system."
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Doesn't seem that bad to me really, given what it's designed to do. They could have added a knee airbag though I guess. Still a lot better than the JK anyway!

 

[InvertedLogic]

Is it wrong that my chief takeaway from the video is how much better I like the Euro hood than the US Sport/Sahara hood?

What's different about it?

 

[digitalbliss]

What's different about it?

There are no hood hents on a NA sport/Sahara hood.

 

[TXJeepScientist]

The control arms folded like tooth picks and allowed the entire front axle to cave in the floor pan. Scary stuff. But that's the nature of body on frame vehicles with solid axles. If you wanna' play, you gotta' pay.

The other interesting thing is how stiff and rigid the hardtop and center section of the vehicle is, which you could see transferred a ton of energy into the occupants in that frontal collision. Ouch.

SUVs and trucks are designed to have the axle and engine drop in case of a head on collision.

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