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I can see it, that would drive me nuts. Luckily I live in a no front plate state.
This thread prodded my OCD and I took another look and found the previously missed 2’nd hole drilled above the driver’s side hole with a longer screw. A trip to the hardware store will correct with either larger screws or nut them (haven’t decided) to correct the stripped hole. 😊
“Dealer Prep” ?

shhh— personalized plates, I missed it more than once 🙄
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Maybe the Tesla was DUI? It probably had been consuming motor oil over the legal limit for a plug-in electric.
If I were the tesla I'd have done the same thing. You can't blame it for being mad. I'm kidding, but the Tesla was def getting back at the jeep.
 

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If you are sitting in traffic and someone hits you from behind and your foot comes off the brake and you then [impact] the vehicle in front of you, all of that is considered the fault of the driver that hit you in the first place.
No, it isn't, at least not in Pennsylvania. In the scenario you describe, liability would be joint and several. It would be assigned to the driver that makes contact with your vehicle, no matter that he was impacted first by the vehicle behind him. Yes, the fellow in the middle would have a legitimate claim against the driver that hit his vehicle, in the same way that you'd have a claim against him, for which the insurance companies would necessarily sort it out.

My wife used to manage a State Farm office, and dealt with automotive claims as a matter of course. Insurance laws, policy management and things like subrogation will vary by state, natch. With that in mind, blanket statements such as the bolded text should probably be avoided. Possibly your scenario would hold true in TX, but not always elsewhere. The claimants should just call their agents and let them do the work that we're paying them to do. 👍
 

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With a quick search, found these pics. Maybe AI generated too?
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Dude's wearing cargo shorts with a belt, shirt tucked in, in Las Vegas heat. I lived and worked in the Vegas area for over 8 months. I never saw anyone dress like this unless they were tourists or retirees 😆
 

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No, it isn't, at least not in Pennsylvania. In the scenario you describe, liability would be joint and several. It would be assigned to the driver that makes contact with your vehicle, no matter that he was impacted first by the vehicle behind him. Yes, the fellow in the middle would have a legitimate claim against the driver that hit his vehicle, in the same way that you'd have a claim against him, for which the insurance companies would necessarily sort it out.

My wife used to manage a State Farm office, and dealt with automotive claims as a matter of course. Insurance laws, policy management and things like subrogation will vary by state, natch. With that in mind, blanket statements such as the bolded text should probably be avoided. Possibly your scenario would hold true in TX, but not always elsewhere. The claimants should just call their agents and let them do the work that we're paying them to do. 👍
Yes, what you are saying is true in some states. The problem this guy has with just letting insurance sort it out is that he only carried liability. His insurance company is just going to tell him that he doesn't have coverage and close the claim if he files one.
 

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Some people have been saying that only the damage for the initial hit would be on the Jeep driver and that all the damage from the second hit and any damage from going off the road would be the Tesla driver’s responsibility.
That's dumb, since the second hit wouldn't have occurred if it weren't for the first hit.
 

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That's dumb, since the second hit wouldn't have occurred if it weren't for the first hit.
Assume that the Jeep had stopped and the claim was filed - the Jeep's insurance company can easily claim that had the Tesla software been functioning correctly, the 2nd hit and all the subsequent damage would not have happened, so they only cover the first hit. How they separate the two - no idea.
 

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New Jeeps are being tracked by Stellantis / Google. Should be easy to see what 392 was at that location at that time and where it went afterwards.
 

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New Jeeps are being tracked by Stellantis / Google. Should be easy to see what 392 was at that location at that time and where it went afterwards.
Pretty sure they will find the drivers of the white jeep. It is just a matter of time.
 

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New Jeeps are being tracked by Stellantis / Google. Should be easy to see what 392 was at that location at that time and where it went afterwards.
You'd need a warrant and a plate number/Vin to even try to access that information. Despite what our paranoid members might believe, Big brother isn't that involved in what jeep is where and when. You still have freedom and some right to privacy even if the lawmakers want to chip away at it every chance they get.
 

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New Jeeps are being tracked by Stellantis / Google. Should be easy to see what 392 was at that location at that time and where it went afterwards.
Easy, as in, having to find a court issue a subpoena for that information from Stellantis.

Probably not going to happen.
 

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392 is a great Jeep at straight road for 100 yards then it's just any other Jeep.
Also no respect for a man having his girl drive him around.
sorry dude, but someone has to drive me home from happy hour.
 

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Unless insurance investigators or attorneys can prove that the Tesla driver was intentionally ramming the Jeep after the accident, this is going to be 100% on the Jeep.
Meh, so initial impact was jeeps fault. Then repeated ramming by tesla, where you see parts come off. Who did what damage to whom?

I bet the jeep clutch was about to catch fire.
 

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Assume that the Jeep had stopped and the claim was filed - the Jeep's insurance company can easily claim that had the Tesla software been functioning correctly, the 2nd hit and all the subsequent damage would not have happened, so they only cover the first hit. How they separate the two - no idea.
Anyone can claim whatever they want. They have to prove it. (If it went to court. Insurance companies work together to *not* go to court, so ...)
 

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If I was driving the Jeep, I would think that the other driver had fled the scene. From what I have seen, the Jeep stopped and the Tesla drove away.
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