Eliminating AUTO Stop

[roaniecowpony]

I unplugged mine a couple of days after I picked up the Jeep nearly 4 years ago. Zero issues and it was free

It does disable remote start, if you have it.

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[Jeep Wick]

@Irishguy1973 spend a few extra bucks and get the Tazer mini, you won't regret it. Lots of features and you can get it cheap on the classifieds if you time it right.

 

[autotragic]

My opinion, since you have a Rubi, get yourself a Tazer mini and don’t mess around with the eliminators…. Even if you can’t imagine what other uses you’d use the Tazer for, believe me, they’ll come trickling in……

Like being able to disconnect my front sway bar in two-wheel drive and being able to engage my front locker in four wheel drive high. Being able to use the rear locker in two wheel drive as well. I love my Tazer.

 

[Vinman]

It does disable remote start, if you have it.

My remote start still works. I do have the Flashcal unit , not sure if thats why he remote still works.

 

[Roky]

Like being able to disconnect my front sway bar in two-wheel drive and being able to engage my front locker in four wheel drive high. Being able to use the rear locker in two wheel drive as well. I love my Tazer.

And…… and….. and…..the list is long, .. I haven’t touched that ess button in over 5 years and never even think about it until one of these threads pop up…

 

[roaniecowpony]

I bought the autostop eliminator because at the time smartstopstart would not ship to California. I’m not sure if that is still the case I would have preferred to support a forum sponsor but I have had absolutely no issues with the autostop eliminator.

i don’t mind being called a nitwit in advance for my opinion. Or even being awarded a laughing/mocking face for my post.

Got a link? I'm in CA too.
There seem to be a lot of companies of many types of products that don't ship to CA. A bigoted perspective, IMO, which cuts themselves out of a huge market, often of like-minded customers. These times are hard to understand.

 

[roaniecowpony]

Like being able to disconnect my front sway bar in two-wheel drive and being able to engage my front locker in four wheel drive high. Being able to use the rear locker in two wheel drive as well. I love my Tazer.

Joe is definitely an innovator in this field. I have one of his locker sensor foolers.

I didn't go with a Taser (JSCAN), but it does have things that I don't get in JSCAN. Since my front locker has been fried for going on it's second year, Taser wouldn't be much benefit for me. What situations do you use the front locker in 4Hi for? (I'm probably going to wire a separate switch for my replacement front locker, which would work any time. )

 

[Rhinebeck01]

Got a link? I'm in CA too.
There seem to be a lot of companies of many types of products that don't ship to CA. A bigoted perspective, IMO, which cuts themselves out of a huge market, often of like-minded customers. These times are hard to understand.

The California Air Resources board requires automotive aftermarket products to go through an approval process. It's a process that cost lots of $ and time....

Sure the sellers of the majority of, if not all knockoffs, may sell in California.... but you can be quite sure they are offerings that are not approved by Calif..

Yup, in CALIF.... You have problems buying lots of things because of the Calif. governments way of doing things there...

I cannot fault/blame a company for following California rules and not sending an unapproved device to Calif..

 

[Byrds8]

Got a link? I'm in CA too.
There seem to be a lot of companies of many types of products that don't ship to CA. A bigoted perspective, IMO, which cuts themselves out of a huge market, often of like-minded customers. These times are hard to understand.

As requested.

https://www.autostopeliminator.com/...cts/2018-jeep-wrangler-jl-autostop-eliminator

 

[Terrymo]

The California Air Resources board requires automotive aftermarket products to go through an approval process. It's a process that cost lots of $ and time....

Sure the sellers of the majority of, if not all knockoffs, may sell in California.... but you can be quite sure they are offerings that are not approved by Calif..

Yup, in CALIF.... You have problems buying lots of things because of the Calif. governments way of doing things there...

I cannot fault/blame a company for following California rules and not sending an unapproved device to Calif..

Yep no blame Intended.

 

[NWJeepr]

Got a link? I'm in CA too.
There seem to be a lot of companies of many types of products that don't ship to CA. A bigoted perspective, IMO, which cuts themselves out of a huge market, often of like-minded customers. These times are hard to understand.

I don’t think it’s “bigoted” at all…I think they are trying to limit any liability regarding altering equipment which potentially affects emissions or fuel economy in that state. California is the home of CARB.

 

[Terrymo]

I use JSCAN so I purchased the Tazer SGW connection cables and created my own modified cable using half of the Tazer extension cable and the autostopstart eliminator cable. I did this to avoid having another length of cable under the dash while still having the convenience of the extension cable.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

@roaniecowpony or anyone in Calif...

If you are considering an offering that deals with stop start.... consider finding a friend of relative that lives outside of Calif. and have them buy the SmartStopStart unit (you give them the $) and have them mail it to you..

Do read all the reviews/negative reviews on Amazon in regard to ALL the knockoffs....

Do take into consideration that user's here know people that have had issues with the knockoffs..

Do appreciate why most everyone here on the forum went with the SmartStopStart in regard to to such a single purpose device. Sure, a few guys did go with a knockoff..

Why install a knockoff offering that is lets say iffy.

SmartStopStart unit has a 3 yr. warranty! YES, 3 years!
You can buy the SmartStopStart for $99.00
@SmartStopStart.com is a forum Sponsor and the owner of SSS is a fellow JL owner
You can easily resell your StopStart unit someday when your JL is history
SmartStopStart has a smaller footprint


Disclaimer: No, I do not work for SmartStopStart... 8-)


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[autotragic]

What situations do you use the front locker in 4Hi for?

Mud mostly.

 

[roaniecowpony]

The California Air Resources board requires automotive aftermarket products to go through an approval process. It's a process that cost lots of $ and time....

Sure the sellers of the majority, if not all knockoffs may sell in California but you can be quite sure they are offerings that are not approved by Calif..

Yup, in CALIF.... You have problems buying lots of things because of their governments way of doing things there...

I cannot fault/blame a company for following California rules and not sending an unapproved device to Calif..

At first, I thought it was clear that a CARB approval would be required. After reading this article and doing some reading of CA codes, I'm not so sure. The Fed EPA is still on the fence and didn't commit one way or the other in this article. Disabling Your Vehicle’s Stop-Start System – Legal Or Against the Law | Torque News

Below is the CA code. But keep in mind that the EPA Federal code reads very similarly. So, if CA says it's a violation, very likely EPA would as well. But (h)(1) and (2) are really the question. Are start-stop systems a "required motor vehicle pollution control device" or will it meet emission standards with the modification to start-stop per (h)(2)?

California Code, Vehicle Code - VEH § 27156
27156.
(a) No person shall operate or leave standing upon a highway a motor vehicle that is a gross polluter, as defined in Section 39032.5 of the Health and Safety Code.
(b) No person shall operate or leave standing upon a highway a motor vehicle that is required to be equipped with a motor vehicle pollution control device under Part 5 (commencing with Section 43000) of Division 26 of the Health and Safety Code or any other certified motor vehicle pollution control device required by any other state law or any rule or regulation adopted pursuant to that law, or required to be equipped with a motor vehicle pollution control device pursuant to the National Emission Standards Act (42 U.S.C. Secs. 7521 to 7550, inclusive) and the standards and regulations adopted pursuant to that federal act, unless the motor vehicle is equipped with the required motor vehicle pollution control device that is correctly installed and in operating condition. No person shall disconnect, modify, or alter any such required device.
(c) No person shall install, sell, offer for sale, or advertise any device, apparatus, or mechanism intended for use with, or as a part of, a required motor vehicle pollution control device or system that alters or modifies the original design or performance of the motor vehicle pollution control device or system.
(d) If the court finds that a person has willfully violated this section, the court shall impose the maximum fine that may be imposed in the case, and no part of the fine may be suspended.
(e) “Willfully,” as used in this section, has the same meaning as the meaning of that word prescribed in Section 7 of the Penal Code.
(f) No person shall operate a vehicle after notice by a traffic officer that the vehicle is not equipped with the required certified motor vehicle pollution control device correctly installed in operating condition, except as may be necessary to return the vehicle to the residence or place of business of the owner or driver or to a garage, until the vehicle has been properly equipped with such a device.
(g) The notice to appear issued or complaint filed for a violation of this section shall require that the person to whom the notice to appear is issued, or against whom the complaint is filed, produce proof of correction pursuant to Section 40150 or proof of exemption pursuant to Section 4000.1 or 4000.2.
(h) This section shall not apply to an alteration, modification, or modifying device, apparatus, or mechanism found by resolution of the State Air Resources Board to do either of the following:
(1) Not to reduce the effectiveness of a required motor vehicle pollution control device.
(2) To result in emissions from the modified or altered vehicle that are at levels that comply with existing state or federal standards for that model-year of the vehicle being modified or converted.
(i) Aftermarket and performance parts with valid State Air Resources Board Executive Orders may be sold and installed concurrent with a motorcycle’s transfer to an ultimate purchaser.
(j) This section applies to motor vehicles of the United States or its agencies, to the extent authorized by federal law.

Edit:
This appears to have been determined by SCOTUS that CAFE (fuel economy) and pollution control are not governed as one.

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