Bubbles in Paint at Door Hinges

[nerubi]

Well, crap!!! After reading this depressing thread, I decided to inspect every hinge. All was great, until I got to the hold, and saw one 1/4 inch bubble. It was on the hood, on the passenger side, along the hinge. This just pisses me off. Jeep Thing my ass. Can these cheapskates just galvanize the aluminum, or at least prime it properly, before slapping it together??
I don't have a nick, scratch, or dent on this. I bought it new 09/2018. I don't live in the rust belt, I have never driven on salted roads, and I dry the hood hinges whenever I wash the thing.
So, does this new Bronco, that is coming out, have aluminum panels??
Just saying.

I know this is hard for you to comprehend but all vehicles with aluminum have some form of AL corrosion. And it is going to be worse on JLs because of all the off road driving and customization. If it bothers you that much then you should try to find a vehicle without aluminum. Since Ford is being sued for AL corrosion on the F-150 guessing they won't do any better on the Bronco.
Just put yourself in the place of buying a new Model T then seeing it start to rust the first year and Henry told you too bad. You're a pioneer.

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[DaltonGang]

I know this is hard for you to comprehend but all vehicles with aluminum have some form of AL corrosion. And it is going to be worse on JLs because of all the off road driving and customization. If it bothers you that much then you should try to find a vehicle without aluminum. Since Ford is being sued for AL corrosion on the F-150 guessing they won't do any better on the Bronco.
Just put yourself in the place of buying a new Model T then seeing it start to rust the first year and Henry told you too bad. You're a pioneer.

Comprehend?? Well, isn't that snotty, @nerubi .
Sorry, but I don't think its too much to expect their engineers and designers to do their jobs, and take a couple of extra steps to prevent the aluminum corrosion.
Pioneer my ass. More like guinea pigs, in their cost cutting tactics.

 

[nerubi]

Comprehend?? Well, isn't that snotty.
Sorry, but I don't think its too much to expect their engineers and designers to do their jobs, and take a couple of extra steps to prevent the aluminum corrosion.
Pioneer my ass. More like guinea pigs, in their cost cutting tactics.

Try researching the facts of aluminum corrosion and the challenges involved. Did you read the post from an Army helicopter mechanic talking about aluminum corrosion on their helicopters? Instead of saying I expect them to do something find out why it is so hard to prevent it from happening. I expect people to be smart and logical but that clearly doesn't happen in all cases does it. I expect my cars to never run out if gas, never need oil changed, never have the tires wear out, never have the windshield break but look how far expecting gets you.

 

[Kraty1]

I had my JLU in for the last free Jeep Wave oil change (5qt) & tire rotation (5 wheel). While there with only the rear doors on, I showed them the paint bubbles on the hinges. They set me up for an appointment with the painter for September without any questions.

 

[Jay 13]

Try researching the facts of aluminum corrosion and the challenges involved. Did you read the post from an Army helicopter mechanic talking about aluminum corrosion on their helicopters? Instead of saying I expect them to do something find out why it is so hard to prevent it from happening. I expect people to be smart and logical but that clearly doesn't happen in all cases does it. I expect my cars to never run out if gas, never need oil changed, never have the tires wear out, never have the windshield break but look how far expecting gets you.

You here again rubbing your nose in ppls issues with their JL’s calling them out when you don’t have this issue on your JL?
Seriously do you really have nothing better to do? You add zero insight into the matter except everyone who has the issue should accept it and do absolutely nothing.
Than ramble on about things from the past! Yea read about the helicopters...if my JL could fly I’d probably let the bubbling paint slide!! And aluminum corrosion and challenges involved? Seems other manufacturers are “UP” for the challenge.

“I expect my cars to never run out if gas, never need oil changed, never have the tires wear out, never have the windshield break” (How is this remotely the same???)

As the last time. We spoke about this, it isn’t 50 years ago when vehicles also had no clear coat or when tv’s were black and white. So if you bought a brand new house today and the bricks started to fall off within a year..would you accept it and say we’ll children you see once upon a time houses were made of sticks and clay ? Again what does any of this have to do with this issue?

Just because things were once “this way” so what? things evolve. Yes thank you again...jeep is made of aluminum, and once again...I’ve owned quite a few aluminum vehicles and NEVER have I had this problem. Not in the 11...7...and 4yrs of life span those vehicles had under my watch.

Maybe because they have better QC maybe they once did where they began and figured out how to properly repair the problem....probably because us guinea pigs complained and didn’t make excuses for it! Not sure maybe you got your Jeep for free??....or maybe you got so much cash and cars it doesn’t matter....but again telling ppl to “suck it up” on their hard earned money doesn’t add anything productive to the matter and again easy for you to say, for someone who doesn’t have this occurring to their vehicle!

maybe instead of making excuses for the a vehicle corroding in its first year we should probably NOT accept it. we’ll be better off and they...like other car manufacturers can improve there quality on this so the rest of us who have said issue....and there’s many! Can have it repaired problerly and our future Jeeps and many others who will join the community don’t have to deal with corrosion issues on 50-60k jeeps going forward.

But hey you don’t have this issue (as you mentioned) but hey keep rubbing your nose in the matter calling ppl out for an issue you have not encountered. Again, do you work for Jeep? It’s an honest question? Cuz it’s really the only answer there must be for you defending a defect in a product. As of now I’m leaving mine and living with it and enjoying my Jeep. I’ll “document it with the dealer” and for now and keep on truckin. At the end of the day though much like myself, my dealer and most ppl who spend there hard earned money on something won’t accept corrosion on a brand new car/truck/suv early on, not from yrs of the elements....but in a manufacturing defect! Not a buyer defect!

 

[Jay 13]

I had my JLU in for the last free Jeep Wave oil change (5qt) & tire rotation (5 wheel). While there with only the rear doors on, I showed them the paint bubbles on the hinges. They set me up for an appointment with the painter for September without any questions.

Good to hear man...hopefully it gets fixed once and it’s done properly!

 

[DaltonGang]

Try researching the facts of aluminum corrosion and the challenges involved. Did you read the post from an Army helicopter mechanic talking about aluminum corrosion on their helicopters? Instead of saying I expect them to do something find out why it is so hard to prevent it from happening. I expect people to be smart and logical but that clearly doesn't happen in all cases does it. I expect my cars to never run out if gas, never need oil changed, never have the tires wear out, never have the windshield break but look how far expecting gets you.

Still being the Antagonistic Pecker, as usual, arent you @nerubi ?? I did my research. You, on the other hand are just being you.

 

[nerubi]

I don't work for Jeep but I have spent most of my career trying to teach logic, engineering and science to people. But it is hard to do that to people who only say "I expect this or that for all the money I pay". Can't understand why it so hard to get this across this is not a Jeep problem this is an aluminum problem. Can it be reduced, yes but are you willing to pay thousands more for the steps/materials needed to reduce the small number of cases that occur? Nope. I bought mine knowing the drawbacks of aluminum, of all the electronics that increase the complexity and cost while also increasing the rate of failure. Of a solid axle vehicle that has intrinsic issues of suspension and steering. Of a limited warranty. I went in informed. Did you?
Do you think metallurgical engineers aren't continously trying to reduce the problem? But they also run into the uninformed who just say I want it now and I want it free.
But tell you what, I'll let you flounder in your cesspool of ignorance. Have fun not getting what you want.

 

[Notorious]

@nerubi Most people flunked 10th grade Chemistry and can’t see beyond, “I paid for it, it should work.” Understanding can be frightening so it’s better to live mindlessly. Aluminum corrodes with time - it doesn’t matter what brand of vehicle uses it. I bought into my vehicle knowing this was a possibility but I also have the 8 year warranty and am willing to give the engineers the benefit of the doubt that they know what they’re doing. If anyone disagrees, please go sell your vehicle for something else.

 

[Jay 13]

I don't work for Jeep but I have spent most of my career trying to teach logic, engineering and science to people. But it is hard to do that to people who only say "I expect this or that for all the money I pay". Can't understand why it so hard to get this across this is not a Jeep problem this is an aluminum problem. Can it be reduced, yes but are you willing to pay thousands more for the steps/materials needed to reduce the small number of cases that occur? Nope. I bought mine knowing the drawbacks of aluminum, of all the electronics that increase the complexity and cost while also increasing the rate of failure. Of a solid axle vehicle that has intrinsic issues of suspension and steering. Of a limited warranty. I went in informed. Did you?
Do you think metallurgical engineers aren't continously trying to reduce the problem? But they also run into the uninformed who just say I want it now and I want it free.
But tell you what, I'll let you flounder in your cesspool of ignorance. Have fun not getting what you want.

The only cesspool of ignorance here is your post to ppl who have this issue when you don’t.

Again now we are discussing apples and oranges....steering and suspension. Nooone in this thread is complaining about that. I’m surely not comparing the on road manners of my Jeep to my other vehicle or past ones (I test drove many and rented for a weekend before my purchase to makes sure I was happy with it’s on road manners as it being a SFA (again apples and oranges with you professor)

I currently own my 3 rd aluminum body vehicle on year 3 ....ZERO corrosion! And 2 of those vehicles cost less than my Jeep. Seriously

“willing to spend the extra thousands for steps/materials to reduce this?”

oh I’m sorry...I thought the 50-60k was enough to not have a new vehicle corrode in a year. Silly me. Oh I mean ignorant me right?

the small number of cases? Lol in a year from now I’ll check back with you and we can see all the 2020-2021’s to join the club. Unless they do something about it. Not sure why expecting a new vehicle to not have corroding issues in such lil time due to there prep work and QC issue when other manufacturers WITH ALUMINUM body panels DO NOT have this issue occurring.
It’s ok folks for everyone here who has this I’m sure FCA will add a new package when trimming out your Jeep....it’s will cost about and extra $5000-10,000 it will be called the will prep and paint your aluminum vehicle body properly option.(There’s a reason why certain body shops are certified for aluminum repair) so it’s done PROPERLY. If it was a “well it’s just hard to do” than every shop could attempt it.

seriously man. All insight is welcome, sticking your nose out at ppl who have issue with there JL’s Is ignorance at its finest.
I’m surprised you haven’t told Jeepcares to get out of the forums As ppl should just accept anything wrong. Better yet tell the manufacturers/dealers to stop offering warranty while you’re at it too!

 

[DaltonGang]

@nerubi Most people flunked 10th grade Chemistry and can’t see beyond, “I paid for it, it should work.” Understanding can be frightening so it’s better to live mindlessly. Aluminum corrodes with time - it doesn’t matter what brand of vehicle uses it. I bought into my vehicle knowing this was a possibility but I also have the 8 year warranty and am willing to give the engineers the benefit of the doubt that they know what they’re doing. If anyone disagrees, please go sell your vehicle for something else.

I have a degree in Biology, with a minor in Chemistry. So, you know where he can stick it!
And, if proper coating, or precautions are taken, aluminum doesn't have to corrode, after less than 2 years of ownership.
Am I disappointed and pissed. Hell yes!! It's not a "Jeep Thing", it's a poor design thing.
Nobody should expect to repaint their car/jeep every few years.
Also, I am not blindly loyal like some here. I love my JL, but unless there is a fix, I will look elsewhere.

 

[JLMOPARMAN]

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