Oddly enough the first ten 6.0 were the better of the two versionsAll you guys bad mouthing FCA about this a that. Have you actually taken the time to look at Fords record? It isnt all that good. Anyone here had their 6.0 diesel when they first came out? Other examples as well.
With any new vehicle from ANY company a new owner can get jammed into nothing but problems. My bronco was a POS, but my f150 that I still have is a keeper. I LOVE that thing.
You and I can agree on that point. But I think the Bronco looks pretty good. I will withhold final judgement on appearance until I see one in person. I believe that it will look even better in person. Especially in the Cyber Orange.The point was that looks are going to play a huge roll on the ultimate decision to go with the Bronco or Jeep. If the statistics being thrown around regarding Jeep being more of a “ mall crawler” are accurate then the actual capabilities of either Jeep or Bronco play second fiddle to aesthetics.
Yeah, if people won't buy a Jeep or keep theirs because of quality I get it but a Ford Bronco then isn't the answer for that person either.In fact, Ford probably has one of the worst records with all-new vehicle launches among the Big 3.
Following the launches of Fusions, Escapes and F-Series, Ford issued recalls due to fire risk multiple times between 2012 and 2019.
It’s a Ford thing...
It's going to be the same for the Bronco. Because IFS moves on an arc that changes the camber of the wheel lifting it can cause more problems than lifting a solid axle vehicle. In order to maintain the factory alignment specification you need to have all of the mounting points for the control arms lower on the frame in the same approximate location as the factory setup. This usually also requires that the differential is also lowered in order to keep the CV shaft angles working well and not binding. And all of that will only lift it. That still doesn't add any capability. In order to get more travel more components like the A arms themselves have to be replaced adding much more cost. This is also typically work that the average owner won't be able to perform themselves.I wonder how easy or difficult it will be to lift the new Bronco.
The most common complaint on Toyota Tacoma forums, besides the atrocious automatic transmission and driving position that is, was from owners struggling with front alignment issues after lifting their trucks.
It appears something about IFS makes lifting those trucks a bit tricky. I don’t know if this is something unique to Tacomas or common on all IFS trucks.
Definitely worth looking into before dropping several grand on a new Bronco that then becomes difficult to modify.
I am sure there won't be any markups on the Hemi Wranglers.Thing is, Bronco production is scheduled to start in April 2021. Even if you get your reservation today, by the time the first Broncos hit dealer showrooms, you navigate through dealer markups and fight it out with richer buyers, you are unlikely to get your Bronco before a year from now.
That Wrangler 392 has greater chances of hitting dealer showroom sooner.
I believe that this was anticipated and calculated on Jeeps part.Thing is, Bronco production is scheduled to start in April 2021. Even if you get your reservation today, by the time the first Broncos hit dealer showrooms, you navigate through dealer markups and fight it out with richer buyers, you are unlikely to get your Bronco before a year from now.
That Wrangler 392 has greater chances of hitting dealer showroom sooner.
True. But at least you can still buy a diesel or a regular Wrangler, or even a Gladiator if you so wish.I am sure there won't be any markups on the Hemi Wranglers.
the thing is tall- stock with Sqatch group is 6'7".Did they pick their smallest guy to sit in it?