Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

With the Bronco launch, what team are you in?

  • I will stay with team Jeep

    Votes: 700 61.0%
  • I may jump to Team Ford

    Votes: 235 20.5%
  • I am staying out of this one for now. (in Eric Cartman’s voice): Screw you guys, I am going home.

    Votes: 110 9.6%
  • Is “both” an option because I am loaded and can afford both?

    Votes: 102 8.9%

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Richtor

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There are a few of you who like to get on a Jeep forum to troll users/Jeep enthusiasts seemingly everyday. Being a contrarian is tiresome. Kudos for keeping it up as long you have. I’m sure this thread has been great entertainment for you.

Hope to see ya out on the trail one day when you have your Bronco. I hope by 2022/23 I’ll have the mods to keep up with you and the ultimate off road machine.
I just find it interesting that Jeep owners are so fearful of the Bronco and its capabilities. Clearance check, suspension travel check, breakover check, lockers check, top doors off check, crawl ratio check. Damn it’s starting to look like a Jeep.

I’m a Jeep owner at least I was. 12 JK 2dr Rubi. I tried to purchase a 2020 JL 2dr Rubi. My offer was turned down. So I purchased the 250 Tremor 7.3 instead for the same price.

Now I have a Bronco 2dr Badlands stick on order. ETA This summer.





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I can’t stand the idea of comparing a bronco to a wrangler. Besides the similarity between grilles and other minor features they are in no way the same. Some ill informed people may confuse the two but it will not impact Wrangler sales only renegade and other small suv sales. Broncos are for city driving and I have no doubt the wranglers off road capabilities are far superior to the bronco. Of course a Jeep is not as comfortable or as packed with features as a bronco it’s about off-road capability and the history of it. Does Ford add eater eggs that serve as a small reminder of where it came from? To my knowledge I do not believe so. Is every aspect of a bronco as easily changed as a Jeep’s? A Jeep is a Jeep and that’s that.
Bronco will impact sales of a Wrangler same as their Musyang - E affected Tesla . It will be very noticable and will (hopefully) push Jeep to make improvements.

JL fit and finishes are on par with 2013 Fords, (with JL having better Nav screen and Ford having far better sound insulation and more options for less momey).

Both vehicles will have something they are better at when it comes offroad (rock crawling vs blasting throught sand and mud)
 

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People are going through enormous amounts of mental gymnastics to try and claim the Bronco is not competing with the wrangler when it’s pretty clear that it is.
Last summer you whined Jeep guys are just brushing the Bronco off because it’s not a Jeep. I remember asking you for specific examples of Jeep people putting down the Bronco which ironically was never responded to. I wonder why..

Let’s ask a similar question again. By either quoting or linking the posts, who exactly is suggesting the Bronco is not Jeep Wrangler competition? There’s a lot of mental gymnastics going on in this thread and it’s mostly one sided..
 

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We might as well be arguing what’s better: traditional chocolate chip cookies or trendy chocolate chip cookies?

Did some already commit their ingredients to one or the other? Yes.

Are some having both? Yes.

Do some prefer one over the other? Yes.

Are you turning down a free one? Hell no!

That said, let’s not get ahead of ourselves and say anyone is “fearful” of another cookie, regardless of which cookie you enjoy.
 

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We might as well be arguing what’s better: traditional chocolate chip cookies or trendy chocolate chip cookies?

Did some already commit their ingredients to one or the other? Yes.

Are some having both? Yes.

Do some prefer one over the other? Yes.

Are you turning down a free one? Hell no!

That said, let’s not get ahead of ourselves and say anyone is “fearful” of another cookie, regardless of which cookie you enjoy.
This^ is exactly my point made on the last page.
Instead of arguing “mine is better than yours” both Jeep and Bronco fans should be celebrating the competition. It just helps us the consumers. Do you think it’s a coincidence that since Ford announced their packages, Jeep all of a sudden offers trail cams and half doors?
Plus, loyalty only goes so far unless FCA or Ford gave you your vehicle for free.
If my Jeep were wrecked or stolen, I’d make a pros and con list for both vehicles and buy whichever is best for me. My favorite option is open Jeep and Sky One so it’d 95% be another Jeep but heck I’d look at the Bronco and if they make a one touch convertible, I’d consider it.
Keep in mind this post is coming from a guy that loves his Jeep.
 

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A lot of the things i like about the Bronco are the things that make it like a Jeep. Which just makes me want to buy a Jeep.

the things i like about the Bronco that are different than the Jeep are:

- i like their powertrains though since i drive a manual i think it is pretty comparable.

- ports on top of dash

- frameless windows!

- no bolts or trim to remove door checks

- better camera system

- more varied interior options (though i like the wrangler interior better)

- Sasquatch package

- more standard options

All these things could be fixed by Jeep so i am interested in whether they do.
 

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I just find it interesting that Jeep owners are so fearful of the Bronco and its capabilities. Clearance check, suspension travel check, breakover check, lockers check, top doors off check, crawl ratio check. Damn it’s starting to look like a Jeep.

I’m a Jeep owner at least I was. 12 JK 2dr Rubi. I tried to purchase a 2020 JL 2dr Rubi. My offer was turned down. So I purchased the 250 Tremor 7.3 instead for the same price.

Now I have a Bronco 2dr Badlands stick on order. ETA This summer.
Only to be sold in one country in the world - Check

This is where Ford are really falling down with the Bronco, no doubt it would sell well here in Australia, lots of us love a nice Ford and Ford is much more part of our motoring History than Jeep, our biggest selling vehicle at the moment in this space is the Ford Ranger with the Wrangler a long way down (300ish sales a month). In saying that the Ranger is not for me and can't compete with the Wrangler, maybe the Bronco could, maybe well enough to end Jeep in our market, we'll never know.
 

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How lame would a Bronco v Wrangler thread be if everyone on the thread just praised Wranglers?
Would be? They were lame from the beginning. Fortunately, they were all jammed into one, because they all went the same way. A bunch of posts started stirring the pot, just for the sake of it, with talk about how the bronco will outshine the Wrangler in every way. That was quickly followed by analytical breakdown of the many demo videos that clearly showed its weaknesses. Finally, rather than conceding, those same posters continue to backpeddle and wrongly compartmentalize those weaknesses to only being an issue if "climbing rocks". Now, we are left with mirror talk and justification for having 3x the weatherstripping in the roof.

Using the term lame, was actually a nicety.
 

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Would be? They were lame from the beginning. Fortunately, they were all jammed into one, because they all went the same way. A bunch of posts started stirring the pot, just for the sake of it, with talk about how the bronco will outshine the Wrangler in every way. That was quickly followed by analytical breakdown of the many demo videos that clearly showed its weaknesses. Finally, rather than conceding, those same posters continue to backpeddle and wrongly compartmentalize those weaknesses to only being an issue if "climbing rocks". Now, we are left with mirror talk and justification for having 3x the weatherstripping in the roof.

Using the term lame, was actually a nicety.
Well that is why there is just one thread and it can be ignored (which most of the users on this site do).
 

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Well that is why there is just one thread and it can be ignored (which most of the users on this site do).
I'd rather do my part to offset misinformation or the lack of the information on the flip side of the coin, than to just simply ignore a thread. I've yet to do it, but I can see the benefit of ignoring an individual who chooses to erode something instead of putting that same effort into building it up. But ignoring a thread does nothing more than leaving a bunch of worthwhile people out in the cold.
 

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I'd rather do my part to offset misinformation or the lack of the information on the flip side of the coin, than to just simply ignore a thread. I've yet to do it, but I can see the benefit of ignoring an individual who chooses to erode something instead of putting that same effort into building it up. But ignoring a thread does nothing more than leaving a bunch of worthwhile people out in the cold.
Good point!
 

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Base Bronco tires are 255/70R16

Base JL tires are 245/75R17

JL tires are a bit narrower but 1.5 inches taller is significant.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was responding to a post that said the Bronco had beefier tires on the lower Trims, but i was lazy and did the comparison in my head.
 

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I'm satisfied for now but my JLR is my fiftieth something vehicle. Wife says no more, but at 69 there is still time for a Bronco, C8 whatever and new broad in the passenger seat :giggle:
Please don't quote me, I may want to delete this thread. cheaper to keep her and all, haha
 

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