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Maybe, but then if they changed nothing else, and FF axles don't really make any difference for towing, then how did the towing capacity go up by 1500 pounds? Unless it was really 1500lb higher all along, and they were just being overly conservative.
The new grill probably allows for more cooling. Also they probably are using the 392/4xe/XR rear brakes to get that rating... but likely a little bit of everything (including the previous measurement being conservative).
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The new grill probably allows for more cooling. Also they probably are using the 392/4xe/XR rear brakes to get that rating... but likely a little bit of everything (including the previous measurement being conservative).
I recall reading that all models would now have the larger brakes from the 4xe/392
 

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I wonder if the front axle is going to be any stronger than current models.. sure.. FF axles rear would allow bigger tires.. but the ones breaking in half are the front axles.. ugh
 

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Maybe, but then if they changed nothing else, and FF axles don't really make any difference for towing, then how did the towing capacity go up by 1500 pounds? Unless it was really 1500lb higher all along, and they were just being overly conservative.
I thought I read they are adding a tow-haul mode to the jeep. Maybe I miss read it?
 

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Okay, I'm in. If it's plug and play and not ridiculously expensive, I'll give it a go.
 

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I'm hoping we can - the current 3500lb towing capacity is almost exactly what my boat trailer weighs, so I'm really pushing the limit (and probably slightly exceeding it when the boat has fuel and gear in it).

Even though I know I can't technically increase the rated towing capacity of a Jeep (what's printed on the door frame is what it is, legally speaking) I'm fine with just mentally knowing that I can safely exceed the rated 3500lb capacity by a few hundred pounds by modding the rear axle to a full float.
When towing weight is usually more of other factors I am wondering how they increased 1500lbs with a FF axle. Going over 3500 with a current JLU the axle snapping in half isn't what I would worry about.
Maybe, but then if they changed nothing else, and FF axles don't really make any difference for towing, then how did the towing capacity go up by 1500 pounds? Unless it was really 1500lb higher all along, and they were just being overly conservative.
Towing capacity for the European market on the current JL Wrangler is 5500LBS. It's exactly the same Wrangler that's sold here with the exception of some non-towing related stuff. You're fine capability-wise. Though there's plenty of speculation about whether or not you should exceed the US spec when towing.
 

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Hi,

Wondering if this could be fitted to our current 44?

Either way would be neat if they offered it on the front as well, maybe locking hubs on both front and rear...

Maybe some aftermarket suppliers will jump on this?

Regards,
Jim
 

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Maybe, but then if they changed nothing else, and FF axles don't really make any difference for towing, then how did the towing capacity go up by 1500 pounds? Unless it was really 1500lb higher all along, and they were just being overly conservative.
Even a sport jlu gets a 5k tow rating in Europe and Australia, it was never about the axle.
 

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Even though pinion and gears are likely the same. Im guessing the full float means near zero flex and load across the axle now the wheel load and some flex is removed. Perhpas reducing axial loads on the carrier and gears?

Or am I talking crap? :)
 

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Even though pinion and gears are likely the same. Im guessing the full float means near zero flex and load across the axle now the wheel load and some flex is removed. Perhpas reducing axial loads on the carrier and gears?

Or am I talking crap? :)
I've read that one of the strength improvements on the current 44 vs the JK era 44 was larger carrier bearings. The current semi float axle shaft has the potential of bending between the wheel flange and the single hub bearing, because it sees both vehicle weight and torsional loads. The full float has a dual opposed hub bearing setup to fully support the wheel end, allowing the axle shaft to only see torsional loads.
 
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Yeah, so has to be better for the gears too I recon.
 

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Maybe, but then if they changed nothing else, and FF axles don't really make any difference for towing, then how did the towing capacity go up by 1500 pounds? Unless it was really 1500lb higher all along, and they were just being overly conservative.
I fully believe it has been 5k on the 4 doors all along as in England the current JLs are rated at 5k. They have less restrictions to an extent on certain vehicle functions. So we either had a government policy change here recently in the states or there is truly something in regards to the new axles.
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