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[yokramer]

So if the 2.0 is this awful unreliable power plant, wouldnt that drive warranty repairs, leading Jeep to want to put as few of them as possible on the road?

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[Sean L]

Don't need turbos, just more power. Ram had no issues towing 8klbs of JLUR on a trailer up to telluride with the cruise control set at 85mph...aside from the 8mpg. NA is ok if you start with 400hp at sea level.

Towed a Mustang on a trailer and had the bed full of household goods through pretty much the entire length of I-40 in my Ram. 15 MPG. Totally surprised myself with that, lol.

 

[Remorseless]

So if the 2.0 is this awful unreliable power plant, wouldnt that drive warranty repairs, leading Jeep to want to put as few of them as possible on the road?

Though I suppose with their 192 long blocks a week on the 3.6 that may be what they've just done by limiting it to the manual in the JL and removing the manual option from the JT.

 

[AnnDee4444]

Sounds like a 15 year old mail truck

15? The newest LLV was built in 1994!

Sounds like it'll fit right in with all time great Jeep engines then. The 4.0 always sounded like a rod was about to come through the block.

They called the Dauntless "odd-fire" V6 because of how shitty it sounded idling.

 

[Ratbert]

What does "less is more" have to do with any of the conversations going on here? AFAIK you're the first person in this thread to use the phrase. I certainly haven't.

Let me quote where you said:

No they're not superior because they're bigger, they're superior because they get more out of less. I don't care if a motor is 1L or 5L...I care about what I get out of what I put in, what it feels and sounds like in the process, and how long it lasts.

Unless, of course, you think that "more out of less" is somehow the opposite of "less is more".

 

[AnnDee4444]

They called the Dauntless "odd-fire" V6 because of how shitty it sounded idling.

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[Remorseless]

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Buick V6s were a popular swap for flat fenders too, if I recall correctly.

 

[TheRaven]

Unless, of course, you think that "more out of less" is somehow the opposite of "less is more".

LOL the irony of this statement coming from one of the most pedantic members i've seen here. You of all people should know that those two phrases have VERY different meanings.

 

[grimmjeeper]

Buick V6s were a popular swap for flat fenders too, if I recall correctly.

Better engine than the AMC straight six that replaced it.

 

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[AnnDee4444]

Better engine than the AMC straight six that replaced it.

You mean the engine that eventually became the 4.0?

 

[AnnDee4444]

Fun fact: the Buick V6 is related to the (Land) Rover V8. And I don't think anyone would call a Land Rover reliable...

 

[_olllllllo_]

I wanted the manual 6-speed and was happy that the 3.6 V6 was offered without the BSG. I prefer less complexity when it comes to engines, but that is me. The 2.0 I4 is a good engine and definitely helps meet CAFE standards. I am just glad we still have some choices. The 8-speed auto is a great tranny by all accounts and I do hope the V6 will get it back, but this may be the first step to only offering the auto with the 4xe in the future.

 

[grimmjeeper]

You mean the engine that eventually became the 4.0?

 

[T.Pigott]

I got the manual so I didn't have a choice. But why can't Jeep pair a 2L T with a Manual? Personally I drove inline 4s in several cars (turboless) and was happy to have a V6 when I got the Wrangler. But all I really wanted was to shift gears. To me personally it's why my Jeep feels like a Jeep when I'm driving it. But how about the new straight 6? That'd be my preference if it came with the manual. I think Jeep (Stalantis) is trying to get rid of both, manuals and the Pentastar.

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