Just checked catch can and Wow!!!

[guarnibl]

@rockadile

You'll learn. You'll learn that when the chitt hits the fan so too speak the dealer ise going to cow down and FCA will dictate what happens / what the dealer gets paid for.

Sure, I do have dealers that turn their head/ ignore add ons.. but when the chitt hits the fan so to speak, they suddenly remember your mods ... mods they saw and well, will throw them in your face.

In general, it really is best if you can, not to put the dealership in the position of covering up for you in regard to mods... again, push comes to shove the dealership is not your buddy and they will assist the mothership (FCA) if it means FCA or the dealer will be out $.

You'll learn....

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Actually, it has nothing to do with the dealer at all. If a failure is above a certain cost, a regional rep comes out to investigate the warranty claim. You can guess what happens next.

I had no issues getting warranty work covered with a supercharger on it, including a PCM failure. An entire engine may be a different story. It is generally good advice that if you start modifying your vehicle, you shouldn't expect to be able to warranty anything it can impact.

Also, the dealership can flag your vehicle. GM has done that before. GM has also voided warranties before for a catch can (due to a failed oil pump on a vehicle that had a catch can, listing the catch can as the culprit). TLDR; YMMV. Once warranty claims start getting expensive, FCA reps will likely look for any possible reason to deny the claim.

Another thing to mention -- some dealerships just flat out don't like working on extensively modified vehicles. Some don't care. Doesn't mean they will void your warranty or flag your vehicle, but you should at least understand their stance before taking your vehicle there if you plan on making a lot of changes.

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[Goin2drt]

Yeah and funny how Mopar has been making this engine for years and folks have run them up over hundreds of thousands of miles with no catch can and they are all still running strong. Crazy stuff. Albeit all of them could have saved millions on the 4 mpg they have been wasting.

 

[stil2low]

Actually, it has nothing to do with the dealer at all. If a failure is above a certain cost, a regional rep comes out to investigate the warranty claim. You can guess what happens next.

I had no issues getting warranty work covered with a supercharger on it, including a PCM failure. An entire engine may be a different story. It is generally good advice that if you start modifying your vehicle, you shouldn't expect to be able to warranty anything it can impact.

Also, the dealership can flag your vehicle. GM has done that before. GM has also voided warranties before for a catch can (due to a failed oil pump on a vehicle that had a catch can, listing the catch can as the culprit). TLDR; YMMV. Once warranty claims start getting expensive, FCA reps will likely look for any possible reason to deny the claim.

Another thing to mention -- some dealerships just flat out don't like working on extensively modified vehicles. Some don't care. Doesn't mean they will void your warranty or flag your vehicle, but you should at least understand their stance before taking your vehicle there if you plan on making a lot of changes.

My motor in my 15 JK bit the dust because of a failed front main seal and PCV. Was in deep enough water that the crank pulley was under and allowed water and dirt to come in to the lower end. Pushed enough of it around the motor that it coughed it into the intake manifold behind the throttle body

Dealer was on my side and was contemplating cleaning my intake manifold to help push FCA to cover a new motor but they were afraid of that exact situation. Some rep coming in and tearing more into the motor after they replaced and the cost fall back on me. Insurance ending up putting a new motor in for me, but was great to see the dealer doing everything they can to protect us both and trying to get it covered

 

[UKCATS]

But how's your gas mileage?

Plus 4mpg brah!

 

[guarnibl]

My motor in my 15 JK bit the dust because of a failed front main seal and PCV. Was in deep enough water that the crank pulley was under and allowed water and dirt to come in to the lower end. Pushed enough of it around the motor that it coughed it into the intake manifold behind the throttle body

Dealer was on my side and was contemplating cleaning my intake manifold to help push FCA to cover a new motor but they were afraid of that exact situation. Some rep coming in and tearing more into the motor after they replaced and the cost fall back on me. Insurance ending up putting a new motor in for me, but was great to see the dealer doing everything they can to protect us both and trying to get it covered

Yep! That's awesome that your dealer was willing to go the extra mile for you -- as you said -- it's up to FCA, but dealer can influence.

 

[JC7]

Guys.. You know it's not magic right. They do serve a purpose, it's not debatable.





What is debatable.. Are they NECESSARY? No. Will they give you giant mpg gains? Unlikely.

 

[thecritter]

Again WOW I knew some people were hotly on one side or the other but did not think was a civil war lol.
1. I put mine on because to me it makes sense, but by no means a must install.

2. Looks cool people ask what is that red thing to me it's a Jeep I wanna make it not stock.

3. I could see it being a huge problem if it was not drained, but with the UPR setup kinda have to to get to oil filter.

 

[pablo_max3045]

I don't think this is a matter of will vs won't void the engine warranty. The dealer cannot strictly say, one way or the other. Certainly they can refuse to perform the work under the warranty, in which case you have to go through Fiat. Irvine Jeep is famous for this.

If the manufacturer can "reasonably" claim that a modification you made to your car has caused or in some way contributed to the failure, then they have cause to refuse your claim and likely will do.
Ford in particular does this. If you have a diesel, you can almost be positive they will void it for using one. Lots of posts on the F150 forums.

Does that mean your local dealer will not perform the work under warranty? No. Of course it doesn't. They may just do the work and get the money back from FCA.
If they want to a-holes about it, they may have grounds to do it.

At the end of the day, it is your personal decision to accept risks in life. If you feel that any real or perceived benefits of a catch can outweigh the possibility of voiding the warranty on the engine, then for you it's worth the risk. If not, then not. Either way, you are the only one who has to deal with it, so no skin off anyone else's backside.

 

[Andy2434]

I'll simply let my Mopar Lifetime MaxCare deal with potential future issues.

 

[TrailTorque]

I think my biggest question is:

Where are you going to pour that? LOL

I can see you walking into autozone with it now lol

 

[thecritter]

I think my biggest question is:

Where are you going to pour that? LOL

I can see you walking into autozone with it now lol

This time had a fire going outside and needed a bit more kick. I change all my own oil save it and turn it in in bulk.

 

[Litfuse]

@Litfuse

Yes, I avoid dealership service departments like the plague..

With today's vehicles.... especially a 1st yr. model vehicle, it is very hard not to have to go to the dealership for say TSB related, computer flashes, etc. that you just can't do yourself. Also anytime you have a part malfunction.. break because of a design flaw, etc., the vehicle has to go in.

So, even though you are like I and do your own work, you will be .... anyway, do keep your pull offs.

My post was just meant to remind you to go easy on the stuff you pull off and then save the pull offs cause you will be reinstalling the stuff quite a bit.

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Absolutely agree about being easy when pulling stuff off. I have learned my lesson several times by not doing that!

 

[TrailTorque]

This time had a fire going outside and needed a bit more kick. I change all my own oil save it and turn it in in bulk.

Makes sense, so any idea why the heck that thing was nearly full? That’s not normal IMO

 

[thecritter]

Makes sense, so any idea why the heck that thing was nearly full? That’s not normal IMO

Was watching Kevin & Brittany's YouTube channel Lite Brite. They put one on and in the next video checked theirs and was about this full. I don't believe there is a chack valve in there it would be a bad day to have it completely full then go on some steep trails and have that much liquid dump into top end.

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