Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

[rockadile]

Land Rover > any of these. But you are gonna pay. the base models start at 50k

I wanna be able to drive my vehicle, not have it in the shop all of the time. We can agree to disagree.

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[Headbarcode]

This is so far from the truth it's a little unsettling people actually believe this..
I love Jeeps and all, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here..

Not sure if you wrote that in jest, but a common misconception:

Rock-Crawlings ≠ Off-Roading

Not sure if you meant rock-crawling here, if yes, the Broncos will definetly impact Wrangler sales, because there is something like 0.01% of the Wrangler owners actually rock-crawl.

1% of all Wrangler owners actually off-road.

99% of Wrangler owners, mall-crawl. (and has never taken their Jeep out of 2H)

P.S. This forum accounts for the niche 1% of actual Wrangler owners, and the poll already showing 20% here would "consider" jumping ship.

You do make some very good and points. However, another usual misconception in these bronco threads is that the amount of articulation will only be tested in rock crawling. But its not. A rutted dirt path and a typical new York street will test it just the same.

Also, the full size bronco is built on the ranger platform. The sport is of the escape platform.

 

[Crawldad]

I wanna be able to drive my vehicle, not have it in the shop all of the time. We can agree to disagree.

then you probably want a Land Rover not a Ford LOL

 

[Headbarcode]

In my opinion, the new Bronco is the result of Ford answering the call of Jeep owners that are less willing to make on road compromises for the sake of off road capability. Jeep has given the wrangler more creature comforts and a better overall ride, but refrains from any changes that will lessen its core abilities. I credit Ford for choosing to fill a gap, rather than go full on toe to toe with the Wrangler.

 

[Arterius2]

You do make some very good and points. However, another usual misconception in these bronco threads is that the amount of articulation will only be tested in rock crawling. But its not. A rutted dirt path and a typical new York street will test it just the same.

Also, the full size bronco is built on the ranger platform. The sport is of the escape platform.

Thank you for the correction, I thought the sport shouldn’t be body on frame..

 

[Sean L]

Thank you for the correction, I thought the sport shouldn’t be body on frame..

Yeah that Bronco Sport is based on the Escape, but with more of an off road oriented setup. Nothing hardcore but I bet the Badlands and a Cherokee Trailhawk would be comparable.

 

[Arterius2]

Yeah that Bronco Sport is based on the Escape, but with more of an off road oriented setup. Nothing hardcore but I bet the Badlands and a Cherokee Trailhawk would be comparable.

Well, to give him credit, he *eventually* made it out..

 

[Headbarcode]

Well, to give him credit, he *eventually* made it out..

Yeah, that was kinda painful to watch and boring at the same time. Although, it did pull me to the edge of my seat when that guy's expensive shades slid into the tub.

 

[Sean L]

Well, to give him credit, he *eventually* made it out..

heh, probably would have done better with the 35s... but since that's not a Bronco Sport I'm not sure why it's relevant to what I said, lol.

 

[rockadile]

then you probably want a Land Rover not a Ford LOL

Yeah, you're right

 

[Cappy]

Well, to give him credit, he *eventually* made it out..

Why are they driving through that giant hole when there is a perfectly good road right next to it?

 

[MrMischief]

I bet the Badlands and a Cherokee Trailhawk would be comparable.

I'm not so sure that they are, at least in an off road comparison. Cherokees equipped with Active Drive II have a 2.92:1 low range, the trailhawk has "active drive lock" which is this low range with a rear locker. As far as I know (to be fair I haven't paid close attention, I suspect they'll sell lots of these but they're not for me) the Bronco Sport is not available with a low range or a true locker in any trim. They have that rear diff that is supposed to be really good. I might be old fashioned, but I still prefer a "real" selectable locker. (I've found auto lockers to be a bit unpredictable, running the spectrum from really good which would be QDII before they neutered it, to a G80 which was almost scary).

To me it seems that the Bronco Sport Badlands sits somewhere between a Renegade Trailhawk and a Cherokee/Compass Trailhawk, in terms of offroad gear and (I suspect) performance. They're going to sell millions, Ford has a hit on their hands, and it'll be great for most people (probably even most users here), but not having a low range really hamstrings the Bronco Sport.

 

[Crawldad]

Yeah, you're right

well you could get a Posrche SUV

 

[Headbarcode]

Why are they driving through that giant hole when there is a perfectly good road right next to it?

It's obvious that the driver didn't watch the mini movie bronco reveal. Otherwise, he would've know that it is perfectly capable of taking the bypasses.

 

[Richtor]

I can’t stand the idea of comparing a bronco to a wrangler. Besides the similarity between grilles and other minor features they are in no way the same. Some ill informed people may confuse the two but it will not impact Wrangler sales only renegade and other small suv sales. Broncos are for city driving and I have no doubt the wranglers off road capabilities are far superior to the bronco. Of course a Jeep is not as comfortable or as packed with features as a bronco it’s about off-road capability and the history of it. Does Ford add eater eggs that serve as a small reminder of where it came from? To my knowledge I do not believe so. Is every aspect of a bronco as easily changed as a Jeep’s? A Jeep is a Jeep and that’s that.

You are in for a rude awakening.

I wasn’t talking about rock crawling at all and I agree rock crawling is not off-roading. I honestly don’t know much about Broncos but I know my Jeep and a family friend got a brand new bronco and it’s terrible off-road. Mine is a base model sport and it performs better in many off-road conditions than a bronco. I mean a bronco is like they wanted a small suv that looked tough (because of the features drawn from the Jeep) but seems to be made for city driving. The different models are just confusing to me unlike the clear features of the different wrangler models. This article explains this all very well https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-ford-bronco-model-you-need-to-avoid/. Besides it’s suspect off-road capability the bronco is just ugly to me especially with the uh top? roof? Idk what to call it, off. I understand my thoughts are not shared by some or many but it’s just my opinion.

That’s not the Bronco.
The Bronco has been to the Rubicon and Moab and will do 90-95 percent of what a Jeep Rubicon will do oem/oem on 35.

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