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[HighTide]

Was hoping I could at least see how many were ordered and got many are getting pulled.

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[Ratbert]

I ordered a High Tide on Mar 1. Any idea how many High Tide orders have been scheduled/built/delivered? Can you give me anything on 1C4HJXDG5NW212204?

Other than the first one, High Tides started being built a few days ago.

Instances of High Tide Package over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	backlog
2022-03-19	1​	1​	0​
2022-03-20	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-21	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-22	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-23	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-24	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-25	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-26	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-27	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-28	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-29	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-30	0​	0​	0​
2022-03-31	0​	0​	0​
2022-04-01	0​	0​	0​
2022-04-02	0​	0​	0​
2022-04-03	0​	0​	0​
2022-04-04	0​	0​	0​
2022-04-05	5​	0​	5​
2022-04-06	18​	0​	23​
2022-04-07	29​	0​	52​
2022-04-08	33​	0​	85​
2022-04-10	82​	0​	167​
2022-04-11	0​	0​	167​
2022-04-12	20​	2​	185​
2022-04-13	21​	2​	204​
2022-04-14	45​	8​	241​
2022-04-15	17​	9​	249​

And as @JohnSarge said, I can't do anything with a VIN that you can't do yourself, especially before there's a build sheet for it.

 

[TriumphJeepster]

It's looking more and more like the rumored 5/2 start dates for Gobi is true.

Let us know if any pop up next week or so!

 

[Pistoloni]

Could you provide an update on diesels being built, window stickers and any other pertinent information?

 

[AngieGal816]

Is it possible to update being built, etc for Rubicon High Velocity XR? Thank you so much!

 

[Oskaloosa Mailman]

I'm Beyond patient at this point. Ordered my RHD Wrangler 10/16/21 at my dealership. Order was not accepted until November 11th. Got VIN from dealer in mid December and again via Jeep Customer Care in February. Still nothing shown as being built. It appears that five RHDs have been built this year. All ordered after mine. An email thread from above local dealer claims they are building 17-25 RHDs per month. Crypto says otherwise. Was told via Jeep Chat on 4/1 that build stared that day. Evidently that was their idea of an April Foll's joke! Last six of my VIN is 116333.

 

[Ratbert]

Could you provide an update on diesels being built, window stickers and any other pertinent information?

The diesel looks promising. Mine will eventually be part of this list. Eventually.

Instances of 3.0L V6 Turbo Diesel Engine w/ESS G3 over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	backlog
2022-03-19	2,764	2,520	244
2022-03-20	11	10	245
2022-03-21	32	44	233
2022-03-22	48	32	249
2022-03-23	57	0	306
2022-03-24	3	0	309
2022-03-25	27	0	336
2022-03-26	0	60	276
2022-03-27	0	130	146
2022-03-28	36	41	141
2022-03-29	36	28	149
2022-03-30	45	31	163
2022-03-31	13	12	164
2022-04-01	39	49	154
2022-04-02	0	11	143
2022-04-03	0	11	132
2022-04-04	27	22	137
2022-04-05	37	8	166
2022-04-06	19	13	172
2022-04-07	12	16	168
2022-04-08	8	16	160
2022-04-10	11	25	146
2022-04-11	0	0	146
2022-04-12	6	24	128
2022-04-13	5	11	122
2022-04-14	25	102	45
2022-04-15	11	7	49
2022-04-16	11	9	51
2022-04-17	0	1	50
2022-04-18	9	4	55
2022-04-19	2	0	57

 

[Ratbert]

Is it possible to update being built, etc for Rubicon High Velocity XR? Thank you so much!

I'm working on a mechanism to analyze multiple pieces of a build concurrently, but currently that's all just ideas floating around in my head. For now we have to look at them individually.

The only identifying part of an XR build that I know of is their tires. The numbers don't look great for it, but Velocity seems relatively ok. Note that I can't imagine a scenario where paint would hold up your Jeep after receiving a build sheet.

Instances of Xtreme Recon 35" Tire Package over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	backlog
2022-03-19	2,466	2,076	390
2022-03-20	61	28	423
2022-03-21	27	15	435
2022-03-22	24	5	454
2022-03-23	67	0	521
2022-03-24	3	0	524
2022-03-25	47	0	571
2022-03-26	0	38	533
2022-03-27	2	186	349
2022-03-28	92	42	399
2022-03-29	66	11	454
2022-03-30	65	35	484
2022-03-31	9	43	450
2022-04-01	9	104	355
2022-04-02	0	46	309
2022-04-03	0	32	277
2022-04-04	54	44	287
2022-04-05	54	1	340
2022-04-06	67	0	407
2022-04-07	73	3	477
2022-04-08	69	14	532
2022-04-10	182	55	659
2022-04-11	1	0	660
2022-04-12	50	26	684
2022-04-13	72	22	734
2022-04-14	160	104	790
2022-04-15	74	35	829
2022-04-16	75	58	846
2022-04-17	0	16	830
2022-04-18	76	11	895
2022-04-19	7	1	901

Instances of High Velocity Clear Coat over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	backlog
2022-03-19	17	7	10
2022-03-20	0	0	10
2022-03-21	4	2	12
2022-03-22	3	4	11
2022-03-23	4	0	15
2022-03-24	0	0	15
2022-03-25	3	0	18
2022-03-26	0	6	12
2022-03-27	0	9	3
2022-03-28	7	4	6
2022-03-29	4	4	6
2022-03-30	5	3	8
2022-03-31	3	2	9
2022-04-01	6	5	10
2022-04-02	0	1	9
2022-04-03	0	2	7
2022-04-04	12	8	11
2022-04-05	4	1	14
2022-04-06	11	8	17
2022-04-07	13	7	23
2022-04-08	9	13	19
2022-04-10	28	26	21
2022-04-11	0	0	21
2022-04-12	9	7	23
2022-04-13	9	5	27
2022-04-14	25	11	41
2022-04-15	12	5	48
2022-04-16	11	14	45
2022-04-17	0	1	44
2022-04-18	21	1	64
2022-04-19	5	0	69

 

[Ratbert]

I'm Beyond patient at this point. Ordered my RHD Wrangler 10/16/21 at my dealership. Order was not accepted until November 11th. Got VIN from dealer in mid December and again via Jeep Customer Care in February. Still nothing shown as being built. It appears that five RHDs have been built this year. All ordered after mine. An email thread from above local dealer claims they are building 17-25 RHDs per month. Crypto says otherwise. Was told via Jeep Chat on 4/1 that build stared that day. Evidently that was their idea of an April Foll's joke! Last six of my VIN is 116333.

Very few RHDs stuck between getting build sheets and window stickers, but I might need to include some percentage calculations in there since we're dealing with small numbers.

I'm fairly confident that I'm only returning US domestic builds. RHD for the US?

Instances of Right Hand Drive (RHD) over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	backlog
2022-03-19	29	15	14
2022-03-20	0	1	13
2022-03-21	0	0	13
2022-03-22	0	0	13
2022-03-23	0	0	13
2022-03-24	0	0	13
2022-03-25	1	0	14
2022-03-26	0	0	14
2022-03-27	0	4	10
2022-03-28	2	3	9
2022-03-29	1	2	8
2022-03-30	5	0	13
2022-03-31	11	7	17
2022-04-01	26	19	24
2022-04-02	3	6	21
2022-04-03	0	2	19
2022-04-04	9	8	20
2022-04-05	1	3	18
2022-04-06	0	4	14
2022-04-07	2	1	15
2022-04-08	4	4	15
2022-04-10	6	9	12
2022-04-11	0	0	12
2022-04-12	0	4	8
2022-04-13	0	1	7
2022-04-14	0	1	6
2022-04-15	1	3	4
2022-04-16	6	8	2
2022-04-17	0	0	2
2022-04-18	5	0	7
2022-04-19	1	0	8

 

[Oskaloosa Mailman]

Very few RHDs stuck between getting build sheets and window stickers, but I might need to include some percentage calculations in there since we're dealing with small numbers.

I'm fairly confident that I'm only returning US domestic builds. RHD for the US?

Instances of Right Hand Drive (RHD) over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	backlog
2022-03-19	29	15	14
2022-03-20	0	1	13
2022-03-21	0	0	13
2022-03-22	0	0	13
2022-03-23	0	0	13
2022-03-24	0	0	13
2022-03-25	1	0	14
2022-03-26	0	0	14
2022-03-27	0	4	10
2022-03-28	2	3	9
2022-03-29	1	2	8
2022-03-30	5	0	13
2022-03-31	11	7	17
2022-04-01	26	19	24
2022-04-02	3	6	21
2022-04-03	0	2	19
2022-04-04	9	8	20
2022-04-05	1	3	18
2022-04-06	0	4	14
2022-04-07	2	1	15
2022-04-08	4	4	15
2022-04-10	6	9	12
2022-04-11	0	0	12
2022-04-12	0	4	8
2022-04-13	0	1	7
2022-04-14	0	1	6
2022-04-15	1	3	4
2022-04-16	6	8	2
2022-04-17	0	0	2
2022-04-18	5	0	7
2022-04-19	1	0	8

I didn't see that many on the crypto site when I filtered for 2022 RHD. Almost more disappointed that way more than I thought have been built yet ordered after mine.

 

[JohnSarge]

I didn't see that many on the crypto site when I filtered for 2022 RHD. Almost more disappointed that way more than I thought have been built yet ordered after mine.

He is not pulling from crypto, he is pulling build/stickers straight from Chrysler so is more accurate… as accurate as stellantis can be anyway…

 

[Ratbert]

I didn't see that many on the crypto site when I filtered for 2022 RHD. Almost more disappointed that way more than I thought have been built yet ordered after mine.

Crypto has a tiny subset of builds (only those that someone registers there). I'm pulling every VIN that's available on jeep.com.

 

[Ratbert]

I didn't see that many on the crypto site when I filtered for 2022 RHD. Almost more disappointed that way more than I thought have been built yet ordered after mine.

Is it normal for mailmen to order their own Jeeps?

Note that I grew up in that part of the state and wrote the infrastructure that controls that massive radar at Eglin. The most powerful phased array on the planet.

 

[bjm00se]

month	% w/build sheets	% w/window stickers
Oct '21	91.1​	85.2​
Nov '21	83.4​	78.3​
Dec '21	84.1​	60.2​
Jan '22	71.5​	54.5​
Feb '22	38.6​	30.4​
Mar '22	3.5​	2.0​

For those of us waiting on older orders (or even newer ones) I think this is the most insightful single view. Could you like run this on a regular basis, and post the output along with the date that it was run?

So this one was on 4/11.
If you ran the same query on 4/18 (1 week later) and the Oct 21 % with build sheets went up to (say) 92.1 and the % with window stickers went up to (say) 86.2 - we who've been harmed by scrum could say that the Oct 21 "burn down rate" was 1% per week, and infer that if you have an Oct 21 build, you're almost certain to see your Jeep built within 10 weeks and the over/under is 5 weeks.

If I think more about it, I'm pretty sure there's more fun combinatorics we could do on this data, especially if there were count numbers as well as as percentages for those cells.

For instance, we could generate the answer to the FAQ "If I order now, what's the 50/50 over/under on when my Jeep will have a Window Sticker?" Obviously, there's no data on whether or date of actual delivery to dealer....

 

[Ratbert]

For those of us waiting on older orders (or even newer ones) I think this is the most insightful single view. Could you like run this on a regular basis, and post the output along with the date that it was run?

So this one was on 4/11.
If you ran the same query on 4/18 (1 week later) and the Oct 21 % with build sheets went up to (say) 92.1 and the % with window stickers went up to (say) 86.2 - we who've been harmed by scrum could say that the Oct 21 "burn down rate" was 1% per week, and infer that if you have an Oct 21 build, you're almost certain to see your Jeep built within 10 weeks and the over/under is 5 weeks.

If I think more about it, I'm pretty sure there's more fun combinatorics we could do on this data, especially if there were count numbers as well as as percentages for those cells.

For instance, we could generate the answer to the FAQ "If I order now, what's the 50/50 over/under on when my Jeep will have a Window Sticker?" Obviously, there's no data on whether or date of actual delivery to dealer....

I'll run/post that query tomorrow, but I'm not sure that we'd be able to make any significant determinations from those trends.

A bone stock Jeep with zero options will likely build extremely quickly while the same Jeep with a Sky One-Touch plus grab handles (which they're currently not making for the SOT and don't allow you to order) would take several months to build.

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