3.6 WITH Etorque vs. 2.0 Turbo (no Etorque)

[tts42572]

Similar here. I had owned a 2.0T in my 2021 Rubicon before recently getting a 2023 with the 3.6 (w/ etorque).

The 2.0T was a fine engine and definitely "zippy". However, 2 things kind of always annoyed me. First off, I always felt obligated to run 93 octane gas in it. Yeah, I know it's very debatable as to which kind of gas to run and I read all the threads on it. I know I probably would've been just fine running 87 octane in it however, I came to the conclusion I just didn't want to mess around and take any chances so always just ran 93 gas. And secondly, the sound did bug me a little. I mean, at times it sounded like a souped up go cart or something.

As for the 3.6, I've only had it for a short time but no complaints. I feel fine running 87 octane gas and the thing just sounds more like I was always used to a motor sounding. And it still has plenty of zip in it. Probably not quite as much zip as the Turbo but I'm mostly just driving around town and honestly can't say I really notice much difference since I'm rarely punching the gas hard anyways.

Both great engines and honestly not sure I really care which one I have. I was more about the other options and the overall deal I was getting this time around and would've taken either motor. I think if I absolutely had to pick one though, I'd lean slightly toward the 3.6 just for the reasons I mentioned. I don't think there's a wrong answer either way though.

So from now until Wednesday I actually have both of these in my fleet... the v6etorque doesn’t have the same peppyness of the 4cyl turbo.. it is quite and smooth and the etorque is 1000% percent smoother and nearly unnoticeable where is was is rough and annoying... the 4cyl moves you around in the seat more and but also feels like it’s working harder to do so... and the v6 sounds is 500 times better ... silent during cruising and has a nice growl when you punch it... 4cyl is noisy and sounds odd.. so far after 1 day my v6 is getting better mileage than the 4cyl ever gave me... v6 etorque is the winner, its official and we can lock this thread now .. thank you haha

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[Flip]

I like these two!

 

[TheRaven]

Yup, years have passed and neither engine has become a clear winner. All these discussions and over a million units sold, and still - some people prefer the 2.0 and some people prefer the 3.6.

I still maintain that we shouldn't be angrily arguing with each other about which engine is better, we should all be focusing our anger at the company that decided to give us two engines that produce almost the same result in two very different ways. WTF?

 

[Flip]

Yup, years have passed and neither engine has become a clear winner. All these discussions and over a million units sold, and still - some people prefer the 2.0 and some people prefer the 3.6.

I still maintain that we shouldn't be angrily arguing with each other about which engine is better, we should all be focusing our anger at the company that decided to give us two engines that produce almost the same result in two very different ways. WTF?

I didn't read every reply, but I didn't notice anyone that came unglued. I thought this was just good JL conversation. When it comes to Jeeps everyone has their own personal preferences. That's one of the things I love about Jeeps. As for me I 'd take a jeep with a chimpanzee running on a squirrel cage, throwing peanuts at him if that's what it took to get on the trail.

 

[TheRaven]

I didn't read every reply, but I didn't notice anyone that came unglued. I thought this was just good JL conversation. When it comes to Jeeps everyone has their own personal preferences. That's one of the things I love about Jeeps. As for me I 'd take a jeep with a chimpanzee running on a squirrel cage, throwing peanuts at him if that's what it took to get on the trail.

No that comment was on years of experience with "2.0 vs 3.6" threads. There have been so many.

And I agree COMPLETELY about personal preference. There are a surprising number of members here that don't however, and believe that you should drive what they prefer...that's the "anger" I was alluding to in my comment.

 

[Flip]

Well I can understand that. The first part of your comment was a spot on and had me laughing. You know how it is, you can't get 3 people to agree on a tire let alone two different engines. Again, that's what I love about jeeps, you can personalize them. The accessories are unlimited. There are days I wish I could wake up, walk out my front door to an endless row of different jeeps lined up. Spend the entire day looking at them and talking to the owners about the upgrades they did.

I'll even bring my little monkey with me.

Cheers my friend.

 

[tts42572]

Well said.

Have to say that engine hasn't even been something that I've really thought about and I've made my choices based upon other reasons and features.

Back in 2020, I custom ordered a Rubi and at that time, the 3.6 Automatic was around 2K more expensive than the 2.0T, so I just went with the Turbo to save a few bucks. I had drove both at the time and really didn't notice all that much difference so just went with the cheaper option.

Just got a new 2023 Rubi though and this one is a 3.6 with etorque. Again, I didn't care much about the motor. I was more interested in just locating a Rubi with a Sky Top, cloth seats (hate leather lol) and with a color I wanted. I found one and made a very nice deal so went with it. This one has a couple other things I don't need like the tow package and upgraded gear ratio but went with it anyways as the dealer basically discounted those items off the sticker price and then some I guess my point is though that I'd have happily bought the new Jeep if it had the 2.0T and wouldn't have batted an eye.

I didn't read every reply, but I didn't notice anyone that came unglued. I thought this was just good JL conversation. When it comes to Jeeps everyone has their own personal preferences. That's one of the things I love about Jeeps. As for me I 'd take a jeep with a chimpanzee running on a squirrel cage, throwing peanuts at him if that's what it took to get on the trail.

 

[speedymart]

Similar here. I had owned a 2.0T in my 2021 Rubicon before recently getting a 2023 with the 3.6 (w/ etorque).

The 2.0T was a fine engine and definitely "zippy". However, 2 things kind of always annoyed me. First off, I always felt obligated to run 93 octane gas in it. Yeah, I know it's very debatable as to which kind of gas to run and I read all the threads on it. I know I probably would've been just fine running 87 octane in it however, I came to the conclusion I just didn't want to mess around and take any chances so always just ran 93 gas. And secondly, the sound did bug me a little. I mean, at times it sounded like a souped up go cart or something.

As for the 3.6, I've only had it for a short time but no complaints. I feel fine running 87 octane gas and the thing just sounds more like I was always used to a motor sounding. And it still has plenty of zip in it. Probably not quite as much zip as the Turbo but I'm mostly just driving around town and honestly can't say I really notice much difference since I'm rarely punching the gas hard anyways.

Both great engines and honestly not sure I really care which one I have. I was more about the other options and the overall deal I was getting this time around and would've taken either motor. I think if I absolutely had to pick one though, I'd lean slightly toward the 3.6 just for the reasons I mentioned. I don't think there's a wrong answer either way though.

I think the sound part isn't really discussed enough. The 2.0L sounds absolutely *horrible* at idle. It sounds like it's about to throw a bearing at any moment

 

[STW]

Yeah, at this point I would probably prefer the etorque of the aux battery setup. Seems like the aux battery gives people same or even more trouble than the 48V system on here?

The aux battery can be bypassed in 3 minutes costing zero money, and will not affect your driving.

The only way the bypass can affect your driving is if you want to use ESS all the time with lots of accessories on that pull significant power during auto-off. Otherwise, ESS works fine with Aux battery bypassed if you want to use ESS. Usually I remember to just push the no-ESS button but you can use a Tazer to turn off ESS so you don't have to push the button.

Once bypassed, the aux battery can be removed. Or you can leave it in place and reconnect it for dealer visits. You can replace the aux like any other battery. The ESS system as implemented by Jeep is not great, and creates the parasitic problem between the two batteries, but it isn't essential to running your Jeep and is bypassed easily and reversibly.

Consider how this compares to eTorque--it seems like a reliable system which is a good thing. But if something does go wrong, does your Jeep still run? can eTorque be easily bypassed? how much to replace the 48v eTorque battery?

 

[Old Dogger]

I have two 3.6 Pentastar engines, and that speaks for itself.

 

[AnnDee4444]

I have two 3.6 Pentastar engines, and that speaks for itself.

One is for extra parts?

 

[Old Dogger]

LOL..Nope, original 3.6 and a PUG 3.6. Since they both blew up, well...I tried to make one out of two. But for some reason, the parts just wouldn't fit..

 

[ekimgnuj]

I test drove over 100 different wranglers for the express purpose of comparing the 2.0 and 3.6. Plus, it was just plain fun. On long Island, at sea level, not once did the 3.6 feel more spirited than the 2.0. The 3.6's consistently felt sluggish without a heavy foot and ample rpms. As a mechanic, it felt like it had to work harder whereas the 2.0's low and mid range torque did a great job of masking the actual weight of the vehicle. Even with over 4" of lift and 38x13.5's, that off idle torque advantage has helped to push the need of a regearing far down the priority list.

Did you have an opportunity to drive the 2.0 on the beaches on LI? If so, any opinion on the 2.0 vs. the 3.6 specifically on handling beach driving? Mine is on the beach every weekend, it's time to upgrade to the 2024 and Jeep in its infinite wisdom only offers the model I want with the 2.0. Thanks!

 

[Headbarcode]

Did you have an opportunity to drive the 2.0 on the beaches on LI? If so, any opinion on the 2.0 vs. the 3.6 specifically on handling beach driving? Mine is on the beach every weekend, it's time to upgrade to the 2024 and Jeep in its infinite wisdom only offers the model I want with the 2.0. Thanks!

Actually, I avoid sand and mud as much as possible, especially salt/sand.

The biggest difference that you'll feel when going from the 3.6 to the 2.0 is more low and mid range torque. That extra torque made the Jeep feel lighter, even though the weight of those two engines are comparable. The 2.0 also feels like it accelerates with less effort, because it doesn't require higher revs to wake up.

My JLUR is lifted 6" over stock and sitting on 40x13.5's, and is still rocking the factory 4.10 gearing courtesy of that low and mid range torque advantage coupled to the wonderful ZF 8-speed.

 

[AFD]

Mike's bumping all the 2.0T vs 3.6 threads today! ?

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