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Which engine to order with Rubicon (canceling a 4xe order)

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Diesel is a bad option for how short your daily commute is. From what I've read you really want at least a 25+ mile commute one way with a Diesel. It won't have enough time to heat up with such a short commute.
 
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I'd order another 4xe.
This ship has sailed. The 4xe has so many issues with no response by Jeep that I have lost faith in it. I agree that it's the most fun to drive but part of driving is being able to drive. I absolutely wish you the best with it and look forward to a future generation.
 

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This ship has sailed. The 4xe has so many issues with no response by Jeep that I have lost faith in it. I agree that it's the most fun to drive but part of driving is being able to drive.
For what it's worth my dealer has seen a lot of 4xe come back for trade with unhappy owners.

It's personal preference if you like turbo engines or not. I've had plenty of both and went with the V6 eTorque. Very happy.
 

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You are going to get 3 different answers to this question and each one is right to the person answering it. You just need to drive them.
I live in PA and have the 3.6 w/ eTorque. No issues.
 

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I’ve driven both and the 4 cylinder is definitely a little quicker, I went with the 3.6 because I plan on keeping my Jeep forever, I would only go 3.6 because it’s a proven engine and it’ll most likely out last the 4 cylinder just due to turbo engines reliability in general
 

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I own the ecodiesel and the 3.6, in particular the 3.6 without the ‘mild hybrid’ 48v battery.

I prefer the feel of the ecodiesel and the fuel economy blows the 3.6 away. But the upkeep of DEF and expensive oil changes and fuel filter changes over time is not ideal, also the reliability is a concern. I’ve had a strange loss of coolant, along with a battery/electronics issue on the ecodiesel. The 3.6 on the other hand runs like a champ and I haven’t had an issue with it since getting it in mid 2019.
I consider the ecodiesel an ‘enthusiasts option’ much like the 392 or 4XE, where as the 3.6 and to a lesser degree the 2.0 are the ‘normal options’
 

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I upgraded from an ‘01, 4.0l, 5-spd TJ to a ‘21, 3.0 diesel, auto, JLUR. 20 years of upgrades overnight! Got almost all the options.
We full time Rv in a Class A diesel pusher. Towing, wheeling, driving all in one. Diesel was an obvious choice.
Test drove the v6 and then the diesel. The rather steep uphill climb out of the dealership was the determining factor! Torque, acceleration and quietness all rolled into one.
8000 miles on the clock and loving it. Only issue was a leaking power steering box, that was fixed quickly and without hassle.
30,000 miles worth of free oil changes, too.
I think extra weight up front improves the handling. Tight, smooth and easy.
I’m in this one for the long haul, plus planning to tow a small camper with it in the future.
I’m a happy camper every time I drive it!
 

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Hey all,

I've read through a lot of these threads but I'm interested in getting some fresh thoughts on this question. I have been waiting for a 4xe for months and reading the endless issues and shutdowns, I'm going to restart the ordering process (woe is me!). In doing so, here are my engine considerations.

1 - It will be a rubicon. I will take it off road but really not a ton. Live in PA and likely will see more trails than actual rock climbs.
2 - I will have the tow package but won't tow much if ever.
3 - Will have standard wheels and no lift.
4 - Will have a mix of commute miles (20 miles/day at 30-45 mph) and longer 4-6 hour trips once every couple months.

What I want: Mostly reliability. But also some nod to fuel efficiency and fun.

Really tossed up between the three engines: V6, 4-turbo, and ecodiesel. I'd pull the trigger on the diesel but I feel like its reliability is somewhat a concern and it is loud (is it?). Love to hear more about it. V6 is the most reliable but its MPGs blow and it's kind of the middle child--good at a bunch, great at nothing. 4-turbo gets good mpg and a nice jump from the gun but I hesitate with the meager 4-banger. Is it really any fun? Anyways welcome the thoughts.

At least I can get the Sarge Green if I go through with this.
I just took delivery of a 2.0 and pretty much immediately put 35s on it, but it is a blast. After 200 miles it really opened up. I had a 3.6 before and I'll never go back unless it develops some unmanageable reliability issue.
 
 







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