Which winch?

[azjl#3]

Die hard warn fan for 50 years, but, why is a warn evo so cheap? And with them going for $400 now when I paid near $1,000 when they came out because why not save a few hundred it's a warn, right? I'm pissed. Why are they cheap, Because it really is crap, buy the US made zeon, or if you want china, buy the badlands from HF, I see they are good winches. My evo died, needed a controller, you cannot buy, have to go through support, they are nice folks, but the weeks and weeks of run arounds to get a simple hand controller, not cool. BTW parts of my spyderco rope sort of melted on the spool just winding it with some tension, not even a pull. That never happened on my e8000 or another zeon I had.

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[OCJW]

Die hard warn fan for 50 years, but, why is a warn evo so cheap? And with them going for $400 now when I paid near $1,000 when they came out because why not save a few hundred it's a warn, right? I'm pissed. Why are they cheap, Because it really is crap, buy the US made zeon, or if you want china, buy the badlands from HF, I see they are good winches. My evo died, needed a controller, you cannot buy, have to go through support, they are nice folks, but the weeks and weeks of run arounds to get a simple hand controller, not cool. BTW parts of my spyderco rope sort of melted on the spool just winding it with some tension, not even a pull. That never happened on my e8000 or another zeon I had.

https://www.roundforge.com/articles...Layer_of_Winch_Line_-_YOU_NEED_TO_KNOW_THIS!_

 

[JSFoster75]

Definitely go with Synthetic line regardless of which winch you choose. The Badland winches from HF are pretty decent too...

https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=badland winches

 

[goochman]

Does the WARN VR EVO10 fit in the OEM steel bumper and would I be able to wire it to the console switchs of my 2020 Rubicon?

Can I just use a winch plate like this to mount?

https://www.quadratec.com/p/warn/wi...NbXA2GINiZDRvhNxhXw0YoQJgWmVM2ixoC204QAvD_BwE

 

[Patsloft]

Hi Everyone, would you rather have a warn evo 10 with steel cable and no remote or an Xbull 13500 with synthetic rope and a remote?

Get the warn with synthetic line and don’t cheap out on something as important as your recovery equipment

 

[J0E]

What a punk. Especially expecting you to pull him out while you are in reverse. That's the best way to strip the front axle ring gear teeth.

Never pull in reverse. Matt's off road recovery does it all the time and gets away with it. Also, never depend on the parking brake pawl even though most folks do and get away with it.

I pop my hood, use the Tazer 2,000 idle, neutral and brakes. With my front camera I can sorta see what's going on. The Tazer brake is a joke, no breaking force. Ditto for the Tazer turn assist.
Oh, and I always use a snatch ring, slowing things down even more. I'm never in a hurry doing a recovery.

 

[J0E]

Hi Everyone, would you rather have a warn evo 10 with steel cable and no remote or an Xbull 13500 with synthetic rope and a remote?

I'd never buy a 10K winch, they have the same motor as the 12K, just higher gears. Seen too many 10K burn up.

I'm convinced the XBull 13.5 is really a 12K winch, but that's still 20% more than the evo.

Get the warn with synthetic line and don’t cheap out on something as important as your recovery equipment

The EVO is cheap, so with your logic get only the Zeon Platinum 12K for $3,500. I have that on my stretched LJR on 43's. My other two rubicons have the superwinch 12K and they've each done more than a couple dozen recoveries. Winches were invented 70 years ago or more and not much change in the last 30 years. The Zeon Platinum has a huge flaw others don't have, it only come with a very unreliable remote control, no wired control

There are a bunch of HF winches in my group and a couple XBull 13.5, and they're all used regularly with success. Those guys don't use a snatch ring like me so they're loading up more than double.

 

[Patsloft]

Does the WARN VR EVO10 fit in the OEM steel bumper and would I be able to wire it to the console switchs of my 2020 Rubicon?

Can I just use a winch plate like this to mount?

https://www.quadratec.com/p/warn/wi...NbXA2GINiZDRvhNxhXw0YoQJgWmVM2ixoC204QAvD_BwE

Yes perfectly

 

[21JLURDG]

Northridge 4x4 makes some good points on Jeep's OE Warn winch set up:
https://www.facebook.com/reel/912310731512481

 

[Waldeck]

A little bit off topic! Getting to play in the mud. North Germany, 1972-ish.

 

[kah.mun.rah]

For how much I use one, this is the option I would buy:

 

[Wabujitsu]

A little bit off topic! Getting to play in the mud. North Germany, 1972-ish.

Bob, ive been trying to figure out which track vehicle that is. It kinda looks like an upgraded M60, but it also looks like an M1A1 - except the turret looks rounded and not angled with flat panels. I’m pretty sure it’s not an M109. I’m stumped!

 

[Waldeck]

Hi Jeff
Your looking at the wrong side of the Pond Mate, It's a British Chieftain MK2, 58ish tons , 6 cylinder Leyland vertically apposed boat engine, very under powered. In a boat it was horizonal for a Low center of gravity. The other end of the winch cable is a very old 1949 Centurion ARV (Armored Recovery Vehicle) which was powered by a Roll Royce Merlin V12, a lower powered version of the Spitfire and P51D Mustang. The winch engine was a Rolls Royce B80 straight 8.

This is a Chieftain MK 3 owned by a Guy in Tennessee. He drove it around a farm, I would go down and fix it every now and then. He would take the people that worked for him for drives around the farm. He sold it to some one out west I think.

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