Thoughts on Fox shocks

[JJ30]

Hi,

Wants your thoughts on Fox 2.5 dsc shocks + hydraulic bump stops vs Fox 3.0 shocks?

I am having JLU sport with teraflex 2.5 lift and 35inch tires. This is my daily driving and offloading are mostly high speed driving over sand dunes with zero rock crawling.

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[Roky]

Hi,

Wants your thoughts on Fox 2.5 dsc shocks with hydraulic bump stops vs Fox 3.0 shocks?

I am having JLU sport with teraflex 2.5 lift and 35inch tires. This is my daily driving and offloading are mostly high speed driving over sand dunes with zero rock crawling.

In your situation and high speed in dunes, I’d definitely recommend 3.0s… the 2.5s are great for most everything on/off road, but 3.0s have internal bypass so they’ll feel cushier in the bump zone…

 

[flick2614]

3.0's are overkill on a Jeep on 35's. You'll never get to the speed needed to actually compress them unless you're airing it out. They'll end up being harsh under such a light vehicle. The remote reservoir Fox 2.5's are plenty for high speed sand on 35's.

 

[zouch]

hydros are cool in concept, but once i looked into the installation required (cutting and welding), i decided i didn't need them.
so far, i've been right.
Performance Elite 2.5 Resis (adjustable) have suited me fine. for what you're describing, unless you're talking about lots of Big Air, they'd probably be fine for you too.

Hi,

Wants your thoughts on Fox 2.5 dsc shocks + hydraulic bump stops vs Fox 3.0 shocks?

I am having JLU sport with teraflex 2.5 lift and 35inch tires. This is my daily driving and offloading are mostly high speed driving over sand dunes with zero rock crawling.

 

[Zandcwhite]

3.0's are overkill on a Jeep on 35's. You'll never get to the speed needed to actually compress them unless you're airing it out. They'll end up being harsh under such a light vehicle. The remote reservoir Fox 2.5's are plenty for high speed sand on 35's.

Such a light vehicle? Our JLU weighs 5400lbs with winch, skids, lift, a Ford raptor weighs 6k lbs... and comes with 3.0s and 35s. You can absolutely push the speeds in a Jeep to use the 3.0s. 2.5s will be enough fior most people, but the bypass capability is big if you're pushing speeds in the desert.

 

[ScotM]

I guess it depends on how fast is fast on the dunes, 2 door or 4 door, how much aftermarket weight you have, and how much you enjoy spending money and installing. For the record, I personally overkill and over engineer everything.

 

[Nokones]

I would consult with Accutune Offroad regarding the Fox Shocks. At first, I thought it would be best to go with the 3.0 shocks and after Accutune explain the difference and the fact that they can perform the correct tuning for my application with the 2.5 Elites, I went with the 2.5 Elites with the custom valving and the ride on both the Street and the Trails is phenomenal.

Based on your trail weight for the type of Trail conditions, ride height, you intend to ride on, they will either custom valve the shocks accordingly and/or recommend if you need to change the springs in order to get the perfect ride.

You be glad that you did go that route after you experience the ride difference. It is totally worth the money spent.

Before I went with the Accutune shocks, I had thd Mopar Lift with the Fox 2.5 non-reservoir shocks. On this one particular trail, it was not safe to drive over 35 MPH. After the Accutune shocks were installed I can drive that trail at 55 MPH safely and under total control and it felt safe to drive faster, but I decided to not push my luck. The shocks and recommended springs made a tremendous difference for my ride and weight.

Additionally, my ride doesn't feel so tippy under certain trail conditions and obstacles after the installation of the new shocks and springs. The ride stays flat in the turns with speed.

 

[JJ30]

Thank you all for your thoughts.

The main reason for this subject is to have comfortable daily driving ride, or at least not a lot worse than the 2.0, while gaining more off-road performance.
I already know that the 2.5 will make the ride a little stiff than the 2.0 and I am fine with that.

Here are the prices. the Hydraulic bump stops will require additional installation cost while the 3.0 is bolt-on.
3.0: 6200$
2.5 dsc: 3200$
Hydraulic bump stops (front and back): 1600$

I could be wrong on this and please feel free to correct me if I am but I am assuming the 3.0 will be more comfortable on a daily driving as it has internal bypass in the ride zone and both 2.5 and 3.0 has the same piston size.


I am certainly not trying to race with the jeep or take the biggest jump in the dunes and I am sure the 2.5 is more than sufficient for the performance I need.
But if the 3.0 is going to provide better daily driving experience and a lot better offroad performance, I certainly would save some money and go directly to it.

 

[zouch]

shocks and hydros don't serve the same purpose. you're not really comparing apples to apples.

from what you describe of your intended uses, a nice set of adjustable 2.5s should be more than good enough, and adjustable for whatever kind of ride you want.

Thank you all for your thoughts.

The main reason for this subject is to have comfortable daily driving ride, or at least not a lot worse than the 2.0, while gaining more off-road performance.
I already know that the 2.5 will make the ride a little stiff than the 2.0 and I am fine with that.

Here are the prices. the Hydraulic bump stops will require additional installation cost while the 3.0 is bolt-on.
3.0: 6200$
2.5 dsc: 3200$
Hydraulic bump stops (front and back): 1600$

I could be wrong on this and please feel free to correct me if I am but I am assuming the 3.0 will be more comfortable on a daily driving as it has internal bypass in the ride zone and both 2.5 and 3.0 has the same piston size.


I am certainly not trying to race with the jeep or take the biggest jump in the dunes and I am sure the 2.5 is more than sufficient for the performance I need.
But if the 3.0 is going to provide better daily driving experience and a lot better offroad performance, I certainly would save some money and go directly to it.

 

[3TV]

I wouldn't limit yourself to just Fox shocks. On my current 392 XR I had Accutune build me a set of Fox 2.5 DSC shocks custom tuned to my Jeeps weight and the 37" tires I was using. Two years later I changed from the Metalcloak 2.5" lift I had been using to a Metalcloak 4.5" lift to be able to clear 40" tires. The only thing I changed on the lift was the springs, and I also needed longer shocks. This time I had Accutune custom build me a set of King 2.5 adjustable shocks tuned for my Jeeps new weight and 40" tires. Well, the King shocks work better. They are both plusher and more controlled than the Fox 2.5 DSC shocks were.

 

[JINO]

I had fox 2.0 on one of my previous jeeps.
Hated them. They were soooo stiff on and offroad. The shop claimed they are tuned for wranglers, I doubt it. Felt like my jeep was going to shake itself apart.
If I got a new jeep, they'd be last on my list of shocks.

 

[failsafe306]

I had fox 2.0 on one of my previous jeeps.
Hated them. They were soooo stiff on and offroad. The shop claimed they are tuned for wranglers, I doubt it. Felt like my jeep was going to shake itself apart.
If I got a new jeep, they'd be last on my list of shocks.

Yeah I don’t like mine either. The MetalCloak reds aren’t much better. I’ll be looking at some Kings when it comes time to upgrade shocks.

 

[flick2614]

Such a light vehicle? Our JLU weighs 5400lbs with winch, skids, lift, a Ford raptor weighs 6k lbs... and comes with 3.0s and 35s. You can absolutely push the speeds in a Jeep to use the 3.0s. 2.5s will be enough fior most people, but the bypass capability is big if you're pushing speeds in the desert.

A Raptor is a completely different weight dynamic; massive heavy V8 in the front, light as hell rear, much more travel if you have the bed cage. Acceleration is 10x faster putting a huge load on shocks without the terrain factors thrown in. I thought they came with 37’s but maybe not.

Even with all those factors Raptors are still overcompensating.

 

[GrayWolf.Overland]

I ran 2.0 reservoir on my 4xe (near to 6000lb) and it got very squishy and soft after a year and was not a great ride around town and highways due to body roll. I moved on to Fox 2.5 DSCs some months back - the adjustability is amazing and its been perfect for both on and off road. On road spirited driving is sooo good.. stays flat on corners and braking. I bet you are lighter than a loaded up 4xe, so you should be ok with the 2.5 DSC IMHO.

 

[Zandcwhite]

A Raptor is a completely different weight dynamic; massive heavy V8 in the front, light as hell rear, much more travel if you have the bed cage. Acceleration is 10x faster putting a huge load on shocks without the terrain factors thrown in. I thought they came with 37’s but maybe not.

Even with all those factors Raptors are still overcompensating.

You'd be surprised how close the travel is with longer shocks on the JL. You can get a Raptor with 37s... which then had less suspension travel than one on 35s. The Raptor on 35s has 14" of front wheel travel and 15" rear. The 37s come with longer bump stops up front limiting the front to 13". A stock jlu. With the xr package has 9" up front and 11" in the rear in my measurements. Change the shocks out to something long travel like rock sports for cheap and I got 13.5" in the front and 16" in the rear. Sure the ifs handles different, but the rear axle and suspension setup is effectively the same.... and you're arguing the one that's lighter in the rear needs larger rear shocks?

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