The great meaningless engine poll

[AnnDee4444]

Suprise to see the 3.6 Manual is winning (add the 2 listings), now is that because of the 3.6 or the idea of a manual transmission?

It's because manual drivers think they are twice as good as an automatic driver.



Just kidding, it's really because I made a mistake and can't edit the poll.

Poll is missing the 2.2 Multijet

It's option #3.

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[AnnDee4444]

may want to recheck that

431-vote update

The manual transmission total is at 69 votes. Nice.
The 2.0 non-eTorque is also at 69 votes. Nice²

 

[The_Irish_Weaver]

431-vote update

The manual transmission total is at 69 votes. Nice.
The 2.0 non-eTorque is also at 69 votes. Nice²

the V6 combined ( 2 manual tabs and automatic ) is killing the turbo

 

[AnnDee4444]

the V6 combined ( 2 manual tabs and automatic ) is killing the turbo

Yes, but it doesn't add up to 69.

 

[The_Irish_Weaver]

Yes, but it doesn't add up to 69.

but its the same engine... even if 2.0 had a manual version would still be in the dust

 

[AnnDee4444]

but its the same engine... even if 2.0 had a manual version would still be in the dust

But it's not 69.

 

[Oilburner]

I like pie

 

[gato]

They do not use the 2.0T in the Gladiator for thermodynamic reasons. Cooling requirements under max load. Notice how the Gladiator grill is different than the Wrangler grills? It's all for more efficient cooling.

I'm sorry, but if you think Jeep can not engineer a cooling package for a 2.0T in a Gladiator you are mistaken. There is absolutely nothing hard or unusual about fooling 4 cyl turbos for trucks. E.g. Ranger.

 

[entropy]

Most votes are gonna go to the 3.6 and 2.0 cause thats what most people have. And theyre just gonna vote for what they have. People dont want to believe another option than the one they got can be better.

We are all dumb like that.

 

[Oilburner]

I'm sorry, but if you think Jeep can not engineer a cooling package for a 2.0T in a Gladiator you are mistaken. There is absolutely nothing hard or unusual about fooling 4 cyl turbos for trucks. E.g. Ranger.

I think if the 2.0L was viable for towing, it would Already be in the 1/2 ton Ram. Just sayin'

 

[viper88]

I'm sorry, but if you think Jeep can not engineer a cooling package for a 2.0T in a Gladiator you are mistaken. There is absolutely nothing hard or unusual about fooling 4 cyl turbos for trucks. E.g. Ranger.

First of all we are talking about a FCA product not a Ford product.

You must know more about the FCA engineering than the engineers at FCA. There is a thread and several articles about why the 2.0T was not used in the Gladiator. There was a technical paper on this as well. FCA engineers did everything possible in an attempt to use the 2.0T. There was nothing left on the table. The 2.0T could not meet the engineer's requirements for thermal efficiency and tow rating. That IS the reason.

 

[gato]

I plan to simply convert my 3.6 manual to BEV once axial flux motors are offered and battery technology is way better in 5 years. I like my Jeep and how I have built it out. Why start over.

Good luck with that project. Sounds like fun, even if wildly un-economical.

 

[BuyHold]

Suprise to see the 3.6 Manual is winning (add the 2 listings), now is that because of the 3.6 or the idea of a manual transmission?

Yes

 

[BuyHold]

Guys (and Gals)! I think that this poll is finally unlocking a lot of market insights.

If we add all the votes made but exclude 3.6 Manual and EcoBoost we get to 420 votes. Since 420>69 and if we multiple by 3.14, divide by square root of 360 and add 100 degrees then I think that we can now collectively put to bed the age old question of which engine.

Amazing work @AnnDee4444 . The engine poll to end all engine polls.

 

[AnnDee4444]

I'm sorry, but if you think Jeep can not engineer a cooling package for a 2.0T in a Gladiator you are mistaken. There is absolutely nothing hard or unusual about fooling 4 cyl turbos for trucks. E.g. Ranger.

https://jalopnik.com/the-engineering-behind-the-jeep-gladiators-tow-rating-1833657453

I doubt you'll click since you clearly didn't read the last links provided, so I'll quote it here:

"...the Gladiator’s chief engineer Pete Milosavlevski—or Pete Milo for short—told me in an interview during the press launch..."​

"The only issue was, engineers were having a tough time creating a cooling system using the Wrangler’s front end (which the Gladiator shares) that could handle best-in-class mid-size truck loads."​

"Speaking of diesel, we don’t know what the upcoming Gladiator diesel will be able to tow, though Milo did tell me over dinner that it will be less than the gas model. I asked him to expound upon that during an interview the following evening, but Jeep’s PR rep made it clear that all the company was releasing was horsepower and torque figures, which are 260 HP and 442 lb-ft, respectively.​

​

Milo did give me a hint, though: charge air cooler."​

And what do the 3.0 diesel & 2.0 have in common?

Guys (and Gals)! I think that this poll is finally unlocking a lot of market insights.

If we add all the votes made but exclude 3.6 Manual and EcoBoost we get to 420 votes. Since 420>69 and if we multiple by 3.14, divide by square root of 360 and add 100 degrees then I think that we can now collectively put to bed the age old question of which engine.

Amazing work @AnnDee4444 . The engine poll to end all engine polls.

Illuminate confirmed?

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