Sponsored

Best engine for intended purpose

rickinAZ

Well-Known Member
First Name
Rick
Joined
Jan 2, 2020
Threads
304
Messages
4,114
Reaction score
6,082
Location
Phoenix
Vehicle(s)
2026 MOAB 392
Occupation
Retired CFO. Mayo Clinic volunteer.
The JL has had an amazing five different engines offered during its tenure. [More if you count eTorque]

Which is the best for off-roading? Ironically, it seems like the two top contenders have been both discontinued.
Sponsored

 

DarthAWM

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mick
Joined
Mar 20, 2024
Threads
3
Messages
5,045
Reaction score
27,616
Location
Odessa, TX
Vehicle(s)
2021 JT Rubicon
Occupation
Oilfield Dispatcher/Semi-Professional Adult Film Star
The 3.6 in my JT really surprised me, its done everything I've asked of it without complaint. Especially after the fudds complained about losing the 4.0 straight six.
 

Ratbert

Well-Known Member
First Name
John
Joined
Jun 20, 2020
Threads
158
Messages
15,974
Reaction score
24,884
Location
PNW
Vehicle(s)
2022 AEV JL370 JLURD
Build Thread
Link
Occupation
Software Engineer
Clubs
 
  • EcoDiesel for incredible low-end torque.
  • 392 if fuel consumption isn't a concern.
  • 2.0L if engine sound is irrelevant.
  • 3.6L just works.
  • As far as I can tell the 4xe doesn't really have an off road advantage.
My wife apparently wants to trade in her AMG GLC43 with a 2-door, so I'll be trying to make that decision myself. Fewer options for a 2-door, of course.
 

Philly_

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2021
Threads
18
Messages
1,375
Reaction score
2,415
Location
Dallas / Detroit / NYC
Vehicle(s)
2022 JL Rubicon
Build Thread
Link
Clubs
 
The one you already have!

From a simplicity standpoint, probably the 3.6L without eTorque. Although, I have the 2.0T without eTorque and have been extremely impressed with how quickly the turbo spools, the resulting low end torque, and how much control I have while climbing obstacles. It was something that worried me quite a bit about having a turbo engine.

All around, I would take the diesel if I could get it in a two door. So much torque...
 

Mike_Hawk

Well-Known Member
First Name
David
Joined
Feb 17, 2022
Threads
6
Messages
408
Reaction score
330
Location
Illinois
Vehicle(s)
2022 GOBI JLUR 3.6
Occupation
Mechanical Engineer
Clubs
 
My main issue with the diesel is it doesn't like short commutes or cold weather... I live 12 minutes from work and in the Midwest, both unfortunately, are not ideal to run the diesel long term.

If the diesel didn't have it's Achillies tendon clipped with the DEF system, this would be a non-question.
 

Sponsored

Ratbert

Well-Known Member
First Name
John
Joined
Jun 20, 2020
Threads
158
Messages
15,974
Reaction score
24,884
Location
PNW
Vehicle(s)
2022 AEV JL370 JLURD
Build Thread
Link
Occupation
Software Engineer
Clubs
 
My main issue with the diesel is it doesn't like short commutes or cold weather... I live 12 minutes from work and in the Midwest, both unfortunately, are not ideal to run the diesel long term.

If the diesel didn't have it's Achillies tendon clipped with the DEF system, this would be a non-question.
OP asked:
Which is the best for off-roading?
For short commutes and ignoring off-roading it'd be the 4xe. Assuming, of course, your cold weather doesn't hinder the battery significantly.
 

2nd 392

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Jun 20, 2021
Threads
15
Messages
9,945
Reaction score
16,651
Location
Ca
Vehicle(s)
Grand Cherokee srt.V10 Dodge 4x
  • EcoDiesel for incredible low-end torque.
  • 392 if fuel consumption isn't a concern.
  • 2.0L if engine sound is irrelevant.
  • 3.6L just works.
  • As far as I can tell the 4xe doesn't really have an off road advantage.
My wife apparently wants to trade in her AMG GLC43 with a 2-door, so I'll be trying to make that decision myself. Fewer options for a 2-door, of course.
Likely not until the JM, but if and when the T-6 with more hp/torque/complexity becomes available, thoughts ? Would you wait if it gets an officially confirmed availability announcement ?
 

Powelligator

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2017
Threads
8
Messages
1,203
Reaction score
2,536
Location
Parker, CO
Vehicle(s)
2006 LJ Rubicon, 2022 JL Rubicon
Clubs
 
The 3.6 in my JT really surprised me, its done everything I've asked of it without complaint. Especially after the fudds complained about losing the 4.0 straight six.
To be sure, the 3.6 Pentastar did not replace the 4.0 inline six. The 4.0 crowd was complaining bitterly about the 3.5 minivan engine in the early JK.
 

DarthAWM

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mick
Joined
Mar 20, 2024
Threads
3
Messages
5,045
Reaction score
27,616
Location
Odessa, TX
Vehicle(s)
2021 JT Rubicon
Occupation
Oilfield Dispatcher/Semi-Professional Adult Film Star
To be sure, the 3.6 Pentastar did not replace the 4.0 inline six. The 4.0 crowd was complaining bitterly about the 3.5 minivan engine in the early JK.
I know it wasn't directly but some of those stuck in the past are still complaining
 

Ratbert

Well-Known Member
First Name
John
Joined
Jun 20, 2020
Threads
158
Messages
15,974
Reaction score
24,884
Location
PNW
Vehicle(s)
2022 AEV JL370 JLURD
Build Thread
Link
Occupation
Software Engineer
Clubs
 
Likely not until the JM, but if and when the T-6 with more hp/torque/complexity becomes available, thoughts ? Would you wait if it gets an officially confirmed availability announcement ?
Probably not. She happened to mention this morning that she was going to trade the Mercedes in on a 2-door Wrangler. Completely out of the blue. I'm thinking she was only half-joking.
 

Sponsored

AcesandEights

Well-Known Member
First Name
Aces
Joined
Aug 19, 2021
Threads
35
Messages
3,869
Reaction score
7,601
Location
So. Oregon
Vehicle(s)
2024 Toyota 4Runner
Occupation
I'm often occupied, by many things, often at the same time
The 3.6L is one of the most reliable and generates decent power at low RPM. It is the best engine.
 
OP
OP
rickinAZ

rickinAZ

Well-Known Member
First Name
Rick
Joined
Jan 2, 2020
Threads
304
Messages
4,114
Reaction score
6,082
Location
Phoenix
Vehicle(s)
2026 MOAB 392
Occupation
Retired CFO. Mayo Clinic volunteer.
To be sure, the 3.6 Pentastar did not replace the 4.0 inline six. The 4.0 crowd was complaining bitterly about the 3.5 minivan engine in the early JK.
I ordered a 2012 Pentastar before they hit the dealer's floors. When it arrived, compared to my old JK minivan engine, the Pentastar felt like an absolute rocketship. It felt like it had an extra two cylinders.
 
Last edited:

Powelligator

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2017
Threads
8
Messages
1,203
Reaction score
2,536
Location
Parker, CO
Vehicle(s)
2006 LJ Rubicon, 2022 JL Rubicon
Clubs
 
  • 3.6L just works.
My wife apparently wants to trade in her AMG GLC43 with a 2-door, so I'll be trying to make that decision myself. Fewer options for a 2-door, of course.
She is making the right choice, clearly a keeper.
 

Tank the Jeep

Well-Known Member
First Name
Greg
Joined
Oct 31, 2019
Threads
7
Messages
861
Reaction score
1,839
Location
Charlotte NC
Vehicle(s)
2020 JL Rubicon Diesel
My main issue with the diesel is it doesn't like short commutes or cold weather... I live 12 minutes from work and in the Midwest, both unfortunately, are not ideal to run the diesel long term.

If the diesel didn't have it's Achillies tendon clipped with the DEF system, this would be a non-question.
I drive my diesel Rubi anywhere/ everywhere. Short trips long trips it don’t matter. This diesel Jeep has 43xxx care free miles. My last diesel Jeep (GC) got traded for this one at 90xxx care free miles. Don’t worry too much about short trips. Even def is not that big of a deal. I don’t put def frequently. I. In the South so I don’t worry about cold. But I bet companies there have big truck and equipment that runs diesel. Diesel is usually more expensive than gasoline but I get great mileage out of it.
 

azjl#3

Well-Known Member
First Name
Scott
Joined
Sep 24, 2022
Threads
17
Messages
3,036
Reaction score
3,671
Location
North AZ
Vehicle(s)
2024 silver zenith or atomic silver. JLUR Extreme Recon-ish
Occupation
retired, grumpy, yet, friendly
3.6 all around best. It’s still made

etorque ruined mine though, start stop is stupid unless living in a city.

love the Deisel, but the company executed poorly. 392, come on, fit another 5 gallons of gas would ya.
Sponsored

 
 







Top