There's no point in reading anything you write, guy. Your whole premise is based on an assumption. Unless I see a link in your next post, preferably going to a site that actually proves anything that you've been stating, that would be cool. Otherwise I'm not going to respond anymore. There's no point in talking to a broken record.
Have a good day.
I'll post this again since you apparently missed it.The maximum you can run that is approved for the EcoD is B20. Bio also has less BTUs of energy over petroleum based diesel as well but yes it burns cleaner and adds lubricity. One reason that it burns cleaner is that it has more Cetane 45-65, compared to petrol #2 40-55 Cetane. If Bio is in there though, keep in mind its a small percent that will give you the cleaner burning/slight higher Cetane. The cons are you need to be sure that the you know how much is in there and that is the problem when especially when your dealing with small private stations were the water and microbes/alga is a major concern. Some dealers after HPFP recall provided a pamphlet from Stellantis ask to use 5% Bio and only 20% in emergency and use the fuel in 30 days or less. The nice thing about renewable is that it doesn't have those problems and can be stored for years. Hospitals and Government generators have moved over to it for that long storage life.
I saw this pics from Bucees which says UP TO 5%. It could be ZERO % lol. There is no minimum % by federal law. I understand your trying to save a little $$ per gallon by no additives but I think its penny wise dollar foolish. Its $10G if the pump has a total melt down to replace everything. Its .10 cents a gallon to run EDT at full does. Also, don't forget if you raise Cetane you get back a bit with the MPG not to mentioned the good ones have the detergents to clean injectors and combustion chamber. I use Redline 85+ Catalyst plus 1oz per 10gallon Hotshots LX4 lube. I'll be going to Optilube once Im out with a blend of Boost and XL Extreme. I don't need antigel but if I did I would run the all in one.
I will say this. Just fueled up at my local Buc-ee's. And I'm not sure how old the picture that you used earlier was, but the Buc-ee's near me in Melissa, Texas...
Yes you will see in the next answers what I mean to Tredsdert.
I will say this. Just fueled up at my local Buc-ee's. And I'm not sure how old the picture that you used earlier was, but the Buc-ee's near me in Melissa, Texas...
So B20, at least at Buc-ee's has between 5% to 20% biodiesel. So on one side it does give credence to what I was saying, that they wouldn't possibly have 0% biodiesel in something they are selling as biodiesel.
On the other side it does give some level of credence to what you're saying. If B20 has between 5% and 20% by diesel, what does that mean for something like B5 biodiesel? Where do they draw the line? Is B5 1% to 5%? Could it possibly be lower?
We may never know. Though realistically while I do to a certain extent agree with you that if there is that question in your mind about fuel around you, I'm not going to hate on someone for using fuel additives. Lord knows I was using them for too damn long. But knowing what we do know, if you are using biodiesel fuel in your Wrangler, then you probably don't need as much additives.
Like you said, it would be nice if companies listed the minimum percentage of biodiesel in their fuel, but at the same time, it seems to be pretty hard to come by information. So at least until we can find proof or at least really solid evidence that there is in fact products sold as biodiesel blend that has 0% biodiesel in it, then I would feel safer about using fuel additives which more than likely aren't regulated as much. I mean how else do you get things like Marvel Mystery Oil which is clearly horrible for vehicles being sold on the market? It's because there's no regulation for that shit.
Just the fact that like one of the websites I linked above said, most of the US petroleum-based diesel fuel doesn't affect have some level of biodiesel in it, even the stuff they're not selling it as biodiesel, would definitely lead me to believe that anything listing as biodiesel has a fair amount of biodiesel in it.
It's too bad, with like 80,000 members on this website, you think there'd be a member or two who has hands-on experience making biodiesel, especially as many places make biodiesel in Texas. Or for that matter the truckers who handle this stuff, you think they would know a thing or two about what the heck they're hauling?
Oh well.
Differences aside, you do seem like a cool guy. You didn't hear that from me though!
