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BrokenDana35 · May 31, 2022

bjm00se said:
12/6. You?

Sorry to hear you are one of the 2021 orders, hope it gets built soon! My order date was 1/26. I was ready to order sooner but was waiting on the 4.88 gears to become available.

The most distinct option we have in common in the 6 speed. And to your point, they probably switched the line over to build 6 speeds and another option like the tow package or hinge gate prevented it from being built.

jeninchicago · May 31, 2022

Ratbert said:
If you take every line item from your POC and put those in a single line that's separated by commas I should be able to give you some feel for how many identical builds have received their build sheets and when they were built (if they've made it that far). I would, however, have to leave any predictions up to you.

@Ratbert Here you go. Curious to know how rare my build is.

Wrangler Unlimited Sport, Customer Preferred Package 23L,3.6L V6 24V VVT Engine UPG I w/ESS, 6-Speed Manual Transmission, Hydro Blue Pearl Coat, monotone paint, Cloth Low- Back Bucket Seats, Black, Convenience Group, Mopar Black Tubular Side Steps, 8.4” Radio and Premium Audio Group, MOPAR All Weather Floor Mats, Jeep Trail Rated Kit, Advanced Safety Group, Safety Group, Cold Weather Group, Technology Group

Ratbert · May 31, 2022

KnightWrangler22 said:
Hey man, order date 3/23/22, JLUR with premium soft top, scheduled 5/6/22 built not in production yet. Can you tell if any with premium soft tops have been built?

They're being built:

Instances of Premium Black Sunrider Soft Top over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	in progress
2022-03-19	3,487	3,233	254
2022-03-20	36	22	268
2022-03-21	63	50	281
2022-03-22	43	31	293
2022-03-23	82	0	375
2022-03-24	1	0	376
2022-03-25	31	0	407
2022-03-26	0	72	335
2022-03-27	2	176	161
2022-03-28	54	39	176
2022-03-29	49	43	182
2022-03-30	53	42	193
2022-03-31	19	15	197
2022-04-01	58	71	184
2022-04-02	1	29	156
2022-04-03	0	14	142
2022-04-04	85	40	187
2022-04-05	42	11	218
2022-04-06	33	25	226
2022-04-07	38	41	223
2022-04-08	35	36	222
2022-04-10	82	76	228
2022-04-11	2	1	229
2022-04-12	13	21	221
2022-04-13	36	14	243
2022-04-14	83	128	198
2022-04-15	29	22	205
2022-04-16	35	68	172
2022-04-17	0	15	157
2022-04-18	13	5	165
2022-04-19	43	35	173
2022-04-20	0	1	172
2022-04-21	56	48	180
2022-04-22	26	20	186
2022-04-23	11	19	178
2022-04-24	8	25	161
2022-04-25	27	14	174
2022-04-26	80	41	213
2022-04-27	60	40	233
2022-04-28	49	62	220
2022-04-29	16	21	215
2022-04-30	20	50	185
2022-05-01	5	11	179
2022-05-02	53	6	226
2022-05-03	54	49	231
2022-05-04	71	86	216
2022-05-05	9	13	212
2022-05-06	44	33	223
2022-05-07	0	12	211
2022-05-08	20	16	215
2022-05-09	43	68	190
2022-05-10	48	42	196
2022-05-11	86	34	248
2022-05-12	3	4	247
2022-05-13	58	83	222
2022-05-14	2	20	204
2022-05-15	3	18	189
2022-05-16	113	62	240
2022-05-17	56	51	245
2022-05-18	78	59	264
2022-05-21	42	66	240
2022-05-22	84	79	245
2022-05-23	65	44	266
2022-05-24	45	43	268
2022-05-25	69	46	291
2022-05-26	45	36	300
2022-05-27	31	51	280
2022-05-28	1	20	261
2022-05-29	18	16	263
2022-05-30	53	36	280
total	6,100	5,820

Ratbert · May 31, 2022

bjm00se said:
Here's mine:
JLJS74 WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON, Customer Preferred Package 23R,V6 24V VVT Engine Upg I w/ESS, 6-Speed Manual Transmission, Hydro Blue Pearl Coat, Prem Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats,
MOPAR Hinge-Gate Reinforcement,MOPAR Grab Handle Kit,Mopar Doors Off Mirror Kit,Black 3-Piece Hard Top,Corning Gorilla(R) Glass,MOPAR Hardtop Headliner,LED Lighting Group,Trailer Tow and HD Electrical Group,Cold Weather Group,Integrated Off-Road Camera

I don't see any matches for that combo. Note that I excluded Rubicon since it's not a build sheet line item. I'll need to figure out a way to handle that.

bjm00se said:
Given the benefit of hindsight, I'd have left off all the things on that list are easy to add later,
hinge gate reinforcement, grab handles, doors off mirrors, headliner, and yeah, gorilla glass.

Think if I did, I'd have a Jeep by now?

JLJS74 WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON, Customer Preferred Package 23R,V6 24V VVT Engine Upg I w/ESS, 6-Speed Manual Transmission, Hydro Blue Pearl Coat, Prem Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats,
Black 3-Piece Hard Top,LED Lighting Group,Trailer Tow and HD Electrical Group,Cold Weather Group,Integrated Off-Road Camera

That would have helped a little:

Instances of 3.6L V6 24V VVT Engine Upg I w/ESS, 6-Speed Manual Transmission, Black 3-Piece Hard Top, Cold Weather Group, Customer Preferred Package 23R, Hydro Blue Pearl Coat, Integrated Off-Road Camera, LED Lighting Group, Prem Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats, AND Trailer Tow and HD Electrical Group over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	in progress
2022-03-19	5	4	1
2022-03-20	0	1	0
2022-03-21	0	0	0
2022-03-22	0	0	0
2022-03-23	0	0	0
2022-03-24	0	0	0
2022-03-25	0	0	0
2022-03-26	0	0	0
2022-03-27	0	0	0
2022-03-28	0	0	0
2022-03-29	0	0	0
2022-03-30	0	0	0
2022-03-31	0	0	0
2022-04-01	0	0	0
2022-04-02	0	0	0
2022-04-03	0	0	0
2022-04-04	0	0	0
2022-04-05	0	0	0
2022-04-06	0	0	0
2022-04-07	0	0	0
2022-04-08	0	0	0
2022-04-10	0	0	0
2022-04-11	0	0	0
2022-04-12	0	0	0
2022-04-13	0	0	0
2022-04-14	0	0	0
2022-04-15	0	0	0
2022-04-16	0	0	0
2022-04-17	0	0	0
2022-04-18	0	0	0
2022-04-19	0	0	0
2022-04-20	0	0	0
2022-04-21	0	0	0
2022-04-22	0	0	0
2022-04-23	0	0	0
2022-04-24	0	0	0
2022-04-25	0	0	0
2022-04-26	0	0	0
2022-04-27	0	0	0
2022-04-28	0	0	0
2022-04-29	0	0	0
2022-04-30	0	0	0
2022-05-01	0	0	0
2022-05-02	0	0	0
2022-05-03	0	0	0
2022-05-04	0	0	0
2022-05-05	0	0	0
2022-05-06	0	0	0
2022-05-07	0	0	0
2022-05-08	0	0	0
2022-05-09	0	0	0
2022-05-10	0	0	0
2022-05-11	0	0	0
2022-05-12	0	0	0
2022-05-13	0	0	0
2022-05-14	0	0	0
2022-05-15	0	0	0
2022-05-16	0	0	0
2022-05-17	0	0	0
2022-05-18	0	0	0
2022-05-19	0	0	0
2022-05-20	0	0	0
2022-05-21	0	0	0
2022-05-22	1	0	1
2022-05-23	0	0	1
2022-05-24	0	0	1
2022-05-25	0	0	1
2022-05-26	0	0	1
2022-05-27	1	0	2
2022-05-28	0	0	2
2022-05-29	0	0	2
2022-05-30	0	1	1
total	7	6

Ratbert · May 31, 2022

BrokenDana35 said:
You have nice taste! I have a nearly identical order (see below). The only unique options in comparison to yours are in bold. I was guessing the 4.88’s were holding me up but that may not be the case. When is your order date?

JLJS74 WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON, Customer Preferred Package 23R,V6 24V VVT Engine Upg I w/ESS, 6-Speed Manual Transmission, Hydro Blue Pearl Coat, Prem Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats, MOPAR Hinge-Gate Reinforcement, Mopar Doors Off Mirror Kit, 4.88 Rear Axle Ratio, MOPAR All-Weather Floor Mats, Steel Bumper Group, Dual Top Group, LED Lighting Group,Trailer Tow and HD Electrical Group

Nope, no matches. Removed color and it didn't make a difference.

KnightWrangler22 · May 31, 2022

Ratbert said:
They're being built:

Instances of Premium Black Sunrider Soft Top over time:

day build sheets window stickers in progress
2022-03-19
3,487
3,233
254
2022-03-20
36
22
268
2022-03-21
63
50
281
2022-03-22
43
31
293
2022-03-23
82
0
375
2022-03-24
1
0
376
2022-03-25
31
0
407
2022-03-26
0
72
335
2022-03-27
2
176
161
2022-03-28
54
39
176
2022-03-29
49
43
182
2022-03-30
53
42
193
2022-03-31
19
15
197
2022-04-01
58
71
184
2022-04-02
1
29
156
2022-04-03
0
14
142
2022-04-04
85
40
187
2022-04-05
42
11
218
2022-04-06
33
25
226
2022-04-07
38
41
223
2022-04-08
35
36
222
2022-04-10
82
76
228
2022-04-11
2
1
229
2022-04-12
13
21
221
2022-04-13
36
14
243
2022-04-14
83
128
198
2022-04-15
29
22
205
2022-04-16
35
68
172
2022-04-17
0
15
157
2022-04-18
13
5
165
2022-04-19
43
35
173
2022-04-20
0
1
172
2022-04-21
56
48
180
2022-04-22
26
20
186
2022-04-23
11
19
178
2022-04-24
8
25
161
2022-04-25
27
14
174
2022-04-26
80
41
213
2022-04-27
60
40
233
2022-04-28
49
62
220
2022-04-29
16
21
215
2022-04-30
20
50
185
2022-05-01
5
11
179
2022-05-02
53
6
226
2022-05-03
54
49
231
2022-05-04
71
86
216
2022-05-05
9
13
212
2022-05-06
44
33
223
2022-05-07
0
12
211
2022-05-08
20
16
215
2022-05-09
43
68
190
2022-05-10
48
42
196
2022-05-11
86
34
248
2022-05-12
3
4
247
2022-05-13
58
83
222
2022-05-14
2
20
204
2022-05-15
3
18
189
2022-05-16
113
62
240
2022-05-17
56
51
245
2022-05-18
78
59
264
2022-05-21
42
66
240
2022-05-22
84
79
245
2022-05-23
65
44
266
2022-05-24
45
43
268
2022-05-25
69
46
291
2022-05-26
45
36
300
2022-05-27
31
51
280
2022-05-28
1
20
261
2022-05-29
18
16
263
2022-05-30
53
36
280
total
6,100
5,820

Awesome thank you!!

Ratbert · May 31, 2022

eveg33 said:
Hey John - Can you run a report for instances of 2.0L builds with XR packages again? Curious if they’ve been building these as I have one with a build date of 6/3/22. Thank you!

It looks like they're not being built as fast as they're getting build sheets:

Instances of 2.0L I4 DOHC DI Turbo Engine w/ ESS AND Xtreme Recon 35" Tire Package over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	in progress
2022-03-19	10	0	10
2022-03-20	0	0	10
2022-03-21	1	0	11
2022-03-22	0	0	11
2022-03-23	0	0	11
2022-03-24	0	0	11
2022-03-25	0	0	11
2022-03-26	0	0	11
2022-03-27	0	0	11
2022-03-28	1	0	12
2022-03-29	0	0	12
2022-03-30	0	0	12
2022-03-31	0	0	12
2022-04-01	0	0	12
2022-04-02	0	0	12
2022-04-03	0	0	12
2022-04-04	0	1	11
2022-04-05	0	0	11
2022-04-06	0	0	11
2022-04-07	0	0	11
2022-04-08	0	0	11
2022-04-10	0	0	11
2022-04-11	0	0	11
2022-04-12	0	0	11
2022-04-13	0	0	11
2022-04-14	0	0	11
2022-04-15	0	0	11
2022-04-16	0	1	10
2022-04-17	0	0	10
2022-04-18	0	0	10
2022-04-19	0	0	10
2022-04-20	0	0	10
2022-04-21	3	0	13
2022-04-22	1	0	14
2022-04-23	1	0	15
2022-04-24	0	1	14
2022-04-25	3	0	17
2022-04-26	3	1	19
2022-04-27	3	0	22
2022-04-28	1	0	23
2022-04-29	2	0	25
2022-04-30	0	2	23
2022-05-01	1	1	23
2022-05-02	3	0	26
2022-05-03	6	1	31
2022-05-04	12	3	40
2022-05-05	4	0	44
2022-05-06	13	5	52
2022-05-07	0	3	49
2022-05-08	4	3	50
2022-05-09	14	15	49
2022-05-10	19	10	58
2022-05-11	22	11	69
2022-05-12	1	2	68
2022-05-13	8	23	53
2022-05-14	0	3	50
2022-05-15	1	3	48
2022-05-16	14	3	59
2022-05-17	2	3	58
2022-05-18	13	11	60
2022-05-21	15	8	67
2022-05-22	23	9	81
2022-05-23	32	5	108
2022-05-24	20	7	121
2022-05-25	21	16	126
2022-05-26	15	9	132
2022-05-27	6	12	126
2022-05-28	0	8	118
2022-05-29	4	3	119
2022-05-30	10	9	120
total	312	192

Ratbert · May 31, 2022

Traveller128 said:
I'm surprised there haven't been more manual 2 doors.

Can you run Willys, Snazzberry, hardtop and 6 speed?

The only builds with that combo were done prior to me collecting this data.

Instances of All Manual Transmissions, Black 3-Piece Hard Top, Snazzberry Pearl Coat, AND Willys over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	in progress
2022-03-19	20	20	0
total	20	20

Ratbert · May 31, 2022

jeninchicago said:
@Ratbert Here you go. Curious to know how rare my build is.

Wrangler Unlimited Sport, Customer Preferred Package 23L,3.6L V6 24V VVT Engine UPG I w/ESS, 6-Speed Manual Transmission, Hydro Blue Pearl Coat, monotone paint, Cloth Low- Back Bucket Seats, Black, Convenience Group, Mopar Black Tubular Side Steps, 8.4” Radio and Premium Audio Group, MOPAR All Weather Floor Mats, Jeep Trail Rated Kit, Advanced Safety Group, Safety Group, Cold Weather Group, Technology Group

No hits.

I took out huge chunks of options (the V6, then Hydro, then the manual, then the side steps, then floor mats, then advanced safety group, then safety group, then cold weather, then technology group, then the 8.4" radio stuff) and still didn't get a single hit.

It wasn't until I removed Jeep Trail Rated Kit that anything returned. Interesting, eh? That could be causing issues with orders or might simply be an extremely rarely-chosen option:

Instances of Jeep Trail Rated Kit over time:

day	build sheets	window stickers	in progress
2022-03-19	3,516	3,182	334
2022-03-20	63	47	350
2022-03-21	63	68	345
2022-03-22	75	56	364
2022-03-23	144	0	508
2022-03-24	2	0	510
2022-03-25	74	0	584
2022-03-26	0	105	479
2022-03-27	3	269	213
2022-03-28	100	84	229
2022-03-29	80	72	237
2022-03-30	75	68	244
2022-03-31	30	33	241
2022-04-01	67	93	215
2022-04-02	2	32	185
2022-04-03	0	10	175
2022-04-04	96	64	207
2022-04-05	62	23	246
2022-04-06	58	37	267
2022-04-07	43	47	263
2022-04-08	43	49	257
2022-04-10	120	101	276
2022-04-11	0	0	276
2022-04-12	29	65	240
2022-04-13	39	15	264
2022-04-14	68	130	202
2022-04-15	21	20	203
2022-04-16	18	41	180
2022-04-17	0	3	177
2022-04-18	43	4	216
2022-04-19	58	30	244
2022-04-20	0	5	239
2022-04-21	49	88	200
2022-04-22	27	24	203
2022-04-23	14	19	198
2022-04-24	10	29	179
2022-04-25	37	21	195
2022-04-26	61	38	218
2022-04-27	46	30	234
2022-04-28	54	54	234
2022-04-29	25	23	236
2022-04-30	18	41	213
2022-05-01	7	20	200
2022-05-02	64	11	253
2022-05-03	58	52	259
2022-05-04	104	85	278
2022-05-05	15	9	284
2022-05-06	78	55	307
2022-05-07	0	33	274
2022-05-08	25	31	268
2022-05-09	96	112	252
2022-05-10	71	60	263
2022-05-11	96	80	279
2022-05-12	5	14	270
2022-05-13	33	84	219
2022-05-14	1	9	211
2022-05-15	4	12	203
2022-05-16	62	54	211
2022-05-17	30	27	214
2022-05-18	53	44	223
2022-05-21	37	48	212
2022-05-22	77	63	226
2022-05-23	75	31	270
2022-05-24	40	27	283
2022-05-25	60	50	293
2022-05-26	48	57	284
2022-05-27	19	43	260
2022-05-28	1	25	236
2022-05-29	4	10	230
2022-05-30	29	25	234
total	6,525	6,291

jeninchicago · May 31, 2022

Ratbert said:
No hits.

I took out huge chunks of options (the V6, then Hydro, then the manual, then the side steps, then floor mats, then advanced safety group, then safety group, then cold weather, then technology group, then the 8.4" radio stuff) and still didn't get a single hit.

It wasn't until I removed Jeep Trail Rated Kit that anything returned. Interesting, eh? That could be causing issues with orders or might simply be an extremely rarely-chosen option:

Instances of Jeep Trail Rated Kit over time:

day build sheets window stickers in progress
2022-03-19
3,516
3,182
334
2022-03-20
63
47
350
2022-03-21
63
68
345
2022-03-22
75
56
364
2022-03-23
144
0
508
2022-03-24
2
0
510
2022-03-25
74
0
584
2022-03-26
0
105
479
2022-03-27
3
269
213
2022-03-28
100
84
229
2022-03-29
80
72
237
2022-03-30
75
68
244
2022-03-31
30
33
241
2022-04-01
67
93
215
2022-04-02
2
32
185
2022-04-03
0
10
175
2022-04-04
96
64
207
2022-04-05
62
23
246
2022-04-06
58
37
267
2022-04-07
43
47
263
2022-04-08
43
49
257
2022-04-10
120
101
276
2022-04-11
0
0
276
2022-04-12
29
65
240
2022-04-13
39
15
264
2022-04-14
68
130
202
2022-04-15
21
20
203
2022-04-16
18
41
180
2022-04-17
0
3
177
2022-04-18
43
4
216
2022-04-19
58
30
244
2022-04-20
0
5
239
2022-04-21
49
88
200
2022-04-22
27
24
203
2022-04-23
14
19
198
2022-04-24
10
29
179
2022-04-25
37
21
195
2022-04-26
61
38
218
2022-04-27
46
30
234
2022-04-28
54
54
234
2022-04-29
25
23
236
2022-04-30
18
41
213
2022-05-01
7
20
200
2022-05-02
64
11
253
2022-05-03
58
52
259
2022-05-04
104
85
278
2022-05-05
15
9
284
2022-05-06
78
55
307
2022-05-07
0
33
274
2022-05-08
25
31
268
2022-05-09
96
112
252
2022-05-10
71
60
263
2022-05-11
96
80
279
2022-05-12
5
14
270
2022-05-13
33
84
219
2022-05-14
1
9
211
2022-05-15
4
12
203
2022-05-16
62
54
211
2022-05-17
30
27
214
2022-05-18
53
44
223
2022-05-21
37
48
212
2022-05-22
77
63
226
2022-05-23
75
31
270
2022-05-24
40
27
283
2022-05-25
60
50
293
2022-05-26
48
57
284
2022-05-27
19
43
260
2022-05-28
1
25
236
2022-05-29
4
10
230
2022-05-30
29
25
234
total
6,525
6,291

Wow. That option wasn’t even something that we actively chose- it was something the dealer threw in! Thanks for running that regression. My build has to happen at some point, hopefully!

eveg33 · Jun 1, 2022

Ratbert said:
It looks like they're not being built as fast as they're getting build sheets:

Instances of 2.0L I4 DOHC DI Turbo Engine w/ ESS AND Xtreme Recon 35" Tire Package over time:

day build sheets window stickers in progress
2022-03-19
10
0
10
2022-03-20
0
0
10
2022-03-21
1
0
11
2022-03-22
0
0
11
2022-03-23
0
0
11
2022-03-24
0
0
11
2022-03-25
0
0
11
2022-03-26
0
0
11
2022-03-27
0
0
11
2022-03-28
1
0
12
2022-03-29
0
0
12
2022-03-30
0
0
12
2022-03-31
0
0
12
2022-04-01
0
0
12
2022-04-02
0
0
12
2022-04-03
0
0
12
2022-04-04
0
1
11
2022-04-05
0
0
11
2022-04-06
0
0
11
2022-04-07
0
0
11
2022-04-08
0
0
11
2022-04-10
0
0
11
2022-04-11
0
0
11
2022-04-12
0
0
11
2022-04-13
0
0
11
2022-04-14
0
0
11
2022-04-15
0
0
11
2022-04-16
0
1
10
2022-04-17
0
0
10
2022-04-18
0
0
10
2022-04-19
0
0
10
2022-04-20
0
0
10
2022-04-21
3
0
13
2022-04-22
1
0
14
2022-04-23
1
0
15
2022-04-24
0
1
14
2022-04-25
3
0
17
2022-04-26
3
1
19
2022-04-27
3
0
22
2022-04-28
1
0
23
2022-04-29
2
0
25
2022-04-30
0
2
23
2022-05-01
1
1
23
2022-05-02
3
0
26
2022-05-03
6
1
31
2022-05-04
12
3
40
2022-05-05
4
0
44
2022-05-06
13
5
52
2022-05-07
0
3
49
2022-05-08
4
3
50
2022-05-09
14
15
49
2022-05-10
19
10
58
2022-05-11
22
11
69
2022-05-12
1
2
68
2022-05-13
8
23
53
2022-05-14
0
3
50
2022-05-15
1
3
48
2022-05-16
14
3
59
2022-05-17
2
3
58
2022-05-18
13
11
60
2022-05-21
15
8
67
2022-05-22
23
9
81
2022-05-23
32
5
108
2022-05-24
20
7
121
2022-05-25
21
16
126
2022-05-26
15
9
132
2022-05-27
6
12
126
2022-05-28
0
8
118
2022-05-29
4
3
119
2022-05-30
10
9
120
total
312
192

Interesting. Thanks again John! We shall see what happens

ChuckQue · Jun 1, 2022

@Ratbert could you run the numbers for diesels again?

Also, how do you copy/paste the build breakdown for you to run that config, and what’s able to be run vs not (IE safety group vs trail rail system)? All I have is the build PDF from the Jeep build configurator on the website and the format looks much different than what I see others post here.

As always, thank you for everything you do sir!

I ordered a Bright White Rubicon, diesel, body color Hard top, advanced safety group, tow group, cold weather group, LED lighting group, steel bumper group

Traveller128 · Jun 1, 2022

Ratbert said:
The only builds with that combo were done prior to me collecting this data.

Instances of All Manual Transmissions, Black 3-Piece Hard Top, Snazzberry Pearl Coat, AND Willys over time:

day build sheets window stickers in progress
2022-03-19
20
20
0
total
20
20

Wow, that's not a lot. Thought there would be more. Thanks!

ALT · Jun 1, 2022

Curious how many 'poverty pack' Wranglers have been built? These are manual transmissions with manual windows and locks that are standard on Sport and Willys Sport models. Can you distinguish between 2 and 4 door?

bjm00se · Jun 1, 2022

Thanks for the update!

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