392 Sluggish vs Modded 2.0

[2nd 392]

White Trash Chic is in these days with the bourgeoise

I ain’t never been called this here “Chic”afore

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[2nd 392]

Shouldn’t need a 20 mph roll.

Remap the spongy off idle throttle and you damn sure don’t. ….. OR+ helps, and also helps with the too low RPM upshifts without aggressive throttle…. it likes to lug around town in 8’th at low speed without.

 

[azjl#3]

Yes, I would assume so, but not sure why that would be impressive. I can also do it chained to a tree, but why?

When I have a cold engine, I keep the RPMs under 2,500 untill I have 180 oil temp. It still drives faster than most other vehicles on the road.

Uh, sarcasm??

 

[Zandcwhite]

Sounds like someone trying to talk themselves out of buying a 392 to me. Not only does the 33% quicker 0-60 show there's a substantially higher low end in the 392, but the dyno doesn't lie. The 392 makes more torque at any rpm you can measure and it's not even close. Not only are numbers at 1k rpm nearly impossible to measure, the turbo is doing nothing that low and you're well past 2k rpms the second you blip the throttle in any new Jeep thanks to the 4.7-1 1st gear. Sure the 2.0t might feel a little more nimble thanks to the lighter weight, but unless your test drive was well above 10k feet the turbo has no power advantage at any rpm. The 392 has a 150ftlb advantage at 2k rpms. No the FBOs aren't nearly doubling the torque of the 2.0t and especially not at low rpm as most of them improve airflow which mostly benefits peak numbers.

 

[Guv]

This is really a dumb comparison and argument.
What’s next;
338 Win Mag vs 223?
NSX vs Civic
F-15 vs Me 262
Sako vs Timex
Liz Hurley vs ????

 

[Zandcwhite]

This is really a dumb comparison and argument.
What’s next;
338 Win Mag vs 223?
NSX vs Civic
F-15 vs Me 262
Sako vs Timex
Liz Hurley vs ????

With the price point of the 392 willys is really not. A loaded Rubicon with the 2.0t would run nearly the same price. Add in the OPs mods and you might be into the 392 for less. They are effectively the same vehicle. It's more like ram 1500 v6 vs v8 vs I6t.

 

[Guv]

The person that buys a Rubicon for that money is probably more concerned about the color of their leather seats and other luxury items than what’s under the hood. Bought for entirely different reasons.

 

[Zandcwhite]

The person that buys a Rubicon for that money is probably more concerned about the color of their leather seats and other luxury items than what’s under the hood. Bought for entirely different reasons.

Our 2022 XR was ~$65k, fully loaded. Stitched leather, adaptive cruise, etc. Gets wheeled all over the country. At that time the 392 would have added another $15k+ and the few"luxury" items we didn't want (paint matched fenders and top). Cloth seats are impossible to keep clean with the dogs. Seat heaters are mandatory for both long road trips and crawling out of the tent when it's 20-30⁰ outside. Adaptive cruise is great on roadtrips too. I wouldn't assume that choosing a loaded Jeep means it's a mall crawler by any means. If you're paying $50k+ for a base Rubicon, why not add the features that you want regardless of use?

 

[Guv]

For some, $$$$

 

[ag4ever]

This is really a dumb comparison and argument.
What’s next;
338 Win Mag vs 223?
NSX vs Civic
F-15 vs Me 262
Sako vs Timex
Liz Hurley vs ????

I choose the 223 almost every time over a 338 Lapua. I have both can shoot both anytime, but I’d rather use a 223 on a coyote than a 338 all other things being equal.

Plus, the 223 is much easier to carry around at night with thermals than that long a$$ barreled 338.

So, I guess I’m saying, who in their right mind would ever pick a 2.0 over a 392? That would be insane!

 

[scorpionsix]

Just install a $350 (ballpark) Banks Pedal Monster in a Wrangler with a 392 and everything will be just fine. That device did more for my 2.0L than all other mods together did.

 

[Guv]

I choose the 223 almost every time over a 338 Lapua. I have both can shoot both anytime, but I’d rather use a 223 on a coyote than a 338 all other things being equal.

Plus, the 223 is much easier to carry around at night with thermals than that long a$$ barreled 338.

So, I guess I’m saying, who in their right mind would ever pick a 2.0 over a 392? That would be insane!

Well,
I have a 2.0 and 6 223/556 long guns.
Great minds think alike.

 

[Guv]

Just install a $350 (ballpark) Banks Pedal Monster in a Wrangler with a 392 and everything will be just fine. That device did more for my 2.0L than all other mods together did.

But should you have to

 

[Ratbert]

It sounds a lot like kids with fart can Honda Civics convincing themselves they've built a Porsche.

 

[scorpionsix]

But should you have to

No but then again, should vehicles have so many features that retract from experienced drivers, no. Too much tech and too many things that by default are in the way.

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