3.6 vs 2.0

[Odyssey USA]

Haha! Seafoam has actually worked to smooth out our 30yo Honda lawnmower ages ago. Was running rough but added direct into the air intake and all is good since. Have been using about 20y now. Seriously runs like a champ and always starts first pull.

Same with our Yama OB. We run it thru the tank and all is good as well. 20yo engine. Starts every time. Super harsh environment.

Also use in our gas and diesel vehicles with turbos. Actually is some good sh!t. But yeah DI with MP is the better tech. Always we run our turbo diesel like we stole it. Italian tune-ups are best - as slow city driving for a diesel is a no no.

And idling...so it has occurred to me that the BSG’s start/stop and the ESS in others may not only benefit mpg.

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[Revolution_322]

And idling...so it has occurred to me that the BSG’s start/stop and the ESS in others may not only benefit mpg.

True and the 48 volt battery is great during water crossings too! What could go wrong...

 

[Odyssey USA]

True and the 48 volt battery is great during water crossings too! What could go wrong...

You think that’s the only electrical component/connection under the water line??

 

[melman8r]

So how is the DI fouling problem addressed ? Fuel additive won't work, as it would be in the cylinder, not the valve ports ...is disassembly and cleaning the only remedy ?

Basically the answer is yes, some use a kit that incorporates blasting each cylinder with walnut shell media or BG Products makes a chemical kit and they you clean each cylinder with a plastic bristle tool. Unless you have additional multi port injectors that spray fuel on the valves, cleaning is your only answer. Seafoam didn't help much in my VW, I used elbow grease and brake cleaner, then replaced the injector o-rings and the intake manifold each time. It didn't pay not to replace the intake manifold while it was off.

 

[melman8r]

This is not a Audi/VW/Lexus/Toyota engine. Do you know of issues with this 2.0 setup?

I was told it doesn't have multi-port injectors from the dealership, therefore good luck to anyone with the 2.0L turbo engine.

 

[AnnDee4444]

True and the 48 volt battery is great during water crossings too! What could go wrong...

BSG is not just on the 2.0 anymore, and not all 2.0s have BSG.

Basically the answer is yes, some use a kit that incorporates blasting each cylinder with walnut shell media or BG Products makes a chemical kit and they you clean each cylinder with a plastic bristle tool. Unless you have additional multi port injectors that spray fuel on the valves, cleaning is your only answer. Seafoam didn't help much in my VW, I used elbow grease and brake cleaner, then replaced the injector o-rings and the intake manifold each time. It didn't pay not to replace the intake manifold while it was off.

I haven't read up on this, but isn't there a difference in the oil requirements for newer DI motors, specifically for this issue? Also, how do we know the 2.0 will have enough blowby to crud up the valves in the first place?

 

[melman8r]

BSG is not just on the 2.0 anymore, and not all 2.0s have BSG.

I haven't read up on this, but isn't there a difference in the oil requirements for newer DI motors, specifically for this issue? Also, how do we know the 2.0 will have enough blowby to crud up the valves in the first place?

It's a closed system, add a catch can, that will help alleviate the crud.

 

[AnnDee4444]

It's a closed system, add a catch can, that will help alleviate the crud.

But is there crud to alleviate?

 

[Arterius2]

It's a closed system, add a catch can, that will help alleviate the crud.

The 2.0 already has an air/oil separator, and does a pretty good job too.

Funny how this thread is STILL going, talk about beating a dead horse.
I'll say this again, it seems like the only people bitter about the 2.0 are the 3.6 owners.

 

[ViperJon]

The 2.0 already has an air/oil separator, and does a pretty good job too.

Funny how this thread is STILL going, talk about beating a dead horse.
I'll say this again, it seems like the only people bitter about the 2.0 are the 3.6 owners.

Sort of pathetic how people have to continually justify their choice by desperately trying to denigrate others choice.

 

[crashclay]

The 2.0 already has an air/oil separator, and does a pretty good job too.

Funny how this thread is STILL going, talk about beating a dead horse.
I'll say this again, it seems like the only people bitter about the 2.0 are the 3.6 owners.

This feels like it's turning into a post about which oil brand is best

I'm not bitter about the 2.0. I don't want to own a turbo engine after some bad experiences I had back in the day with a Ford Ecoboost, but I'm not going to begrudge anyone that chooses to buy one and won't try to convince them my engine (or choice of oil) is better than theirs.

 

[Instaurare]

I own a JLR 2.0 , like it a lot, had no problems, it is great on the trails, and would not hesitate to buy one again. However, having said all that, I am pretty sure that a 3.6 manual will hold its resale value better.

 

[Strommen95]

I've read the entire thread. I don't see any bitter owners nor either engine being denigrated outside of 1 comment of 100+. If bringing up direct injection is denigrating than it's denigrating to say the 2.0 has more torque(see how silly that logic is?) Again why even read a discussion forum if discussion offends you? Rehashing this topic gets old for sure but it's obvious pros and cons were going to be brought up.

 

[Revolution_322]

BSG is not just on the 2.0 anymore, and not all 2.0s have BSG.

I haven't read up on this, but isn't there a difference in the oil requirements for newer DI motors, specifically for this issue? Also, how do we know the 2.0 will have enough blowby to crud up the valves in the first place?

I know that. Geeee. I wonder why?

 

[Revolution_322]

I've read the entire thread. I don't see any bitter owners nor either engine being denigrated outside of 1 comment of 100+. If bringing up direct injection is denigrating than it's denigrating to say the 2.0 has more torque(see how silly that logic is?) Again why even read a discussion forum if discussion offends you? Rehashing this topic gets old for sure but it's obvious pros and cons were going to be brought up.

This is correct. Its pretty much the first time jeep owners who spent 60k on a jeep midlife crisis that are getting butt hurt

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