Question on 1st Tire Rotation

[Boatbuilder88]

Why not incorporate the spare into the rotation? The tire is just going to dry rot while hanging back there unused.

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[2nd 392]

From my owners manual. It’s not worded like one of the 10 commandments. Seems like maybe you’ve already made up your mind.

This You have a matching spare
Use it or Lose it for any of the aforementioned reasons. What the heck, tires are cheap ,
aren’t they ?

 

[Terrymo]

This You have a matching spare
Use it or Lose it for any of the aforementioned reasons. What the heck, tires are cheap ,
aren’t they ?

Plus with a 392 wear may be accelerated even on road from “spirited driving” right?

 

[Terrymo]

No, the tire has the sensor. The vehicle doesn't read the sensor (on the spare).

Although, it might also be because TPMS sensors are shutting off when not spinning to save power. And the spare doesn't spin! So it might be impossible, practically speaking.

Some more info here: https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...eceiver-sensor-wheres-it-located.56385/page-2

I realize that but misunderstood your wording

 

[Radioman]

I always rotate all 5 for the reasons listed above. All 5 have the sensor but the sensor only transmits after it has been spinning, therefore the spare doesn't transmit a signal.

Edit:
Another advantage of rotating 5 is that you only have to lift one corner of the Jeep at a time. I must admit though that putting the spare back on the rear studs is getting harder to this old man.

 

[sunset]

I always rotate all 5 for the reasons listed above. All 5 have the sensor but the sensor only transmits after it has been spinning, therefore the spare doesn't transmit a signal.

Something other than the spinning motion apparently distinguishes which corner of the vehicle each spinning sensor (stem) is signaling from. LF, RF, LR, RR, etc.

 

[2nd 392]

Plus with a 392 wear may be accelerated even on road from “spirited driving” right?

4 wheel drive even in high range, all 4 burn rubber
Seriously- 35’s won’t fit my PU’s spare spot. A rear flat requires moving a front tire to the back, the spare on the front, 2WD only due to LSD’s, a PITA. My 63 MD had 4 HD off road mags, the spare a much lighter but identical looking standard one. 5 wheel rotation not possible, tires wasted. In my defense they were on it when purchased and good 15X10’s.

 

[Ratbert]

Incidentally, I just pump up my spare tire to the sidewall max PSI so I don't have to check it but once per year. If I ever have to use it, it's easy to deflate to the correct amount. (I also have an air compressor in case it actually was too low).

I keep mine extremely low. If I drop off a ledge and hit it I want it to give as much as possible. Hopefully that'll never happen, but if it does it could mean saving the tailgate, carrier, and / or rear window.

Onboard air makes it simple to inflate to a usable pressure.

 

[Radioman]

Something other than the spinning motion apparently distinguishes which corner of the vehicle each spinning sensor (stem) is signaling from. LF, RF, LR, RR, etc.

I don't know how the vehicle distinguishes the road tire's location, I just know the vehicle is not seeing the spare tire's sensor while it is seating at the rear of the Jeep.

 

[LAM]

I always rotate all 5 for the reasons listed above. All 5 have the sensor but the sensor only transmits after it has been spinning, therefore the spare doesn't transmit a signal.

Edit:
Another advantage of rotating 5 is that you only have to lift one corner of the Jeep at a time. I must admit though that putting the spare back on the rear studs is getting harder to this old man.

My comment as well. If you do your own rotation with all five tires you need to jack up just one wheel at a time. Plus you can easily keep track of which tire went where. My Rubicon take off’s have working sensors in all five wheels.

 

[4xFUN]

I only do a 4 tire rotation, X fronts to rear and rears to front same side. I have done this on all my rigs since I got out of the military at 5,000 mile intervals and have always gotten even tread wear and long life from my tires...

Lot's of opinions on this but Ford recommends this for their Raptors, RAM recommends it for my TRX, Jeep shows it in their owners manual...Plus if you do decide to change size or brand of tire, you now have a never-on-ground tire to sell to help offset the cost of your new ones!

 

[zouch]

They do not mention 5-tire rotation on that webpage.

read it again; they absolutely do, and they describe why.
a 4WD system will have a lower chance of binding up and will work better if all the tires on the ground are close to the same tread-wear and have the same roll-out/circumference.

No, the tire has the sensor. The vehicle doesn't read the sensor (on the spare).

Although, it might also be because TPMS sensors are shutting off when not spinning to save power. And the spare doesn't spin! So it might be impossible, practically speaking.

Some more info here: https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...eceiver-sensor-wheres-it-located.56385/page-2

exactly; the pressure sensor doesn't transmit until it's been spinning for a bit. the tire in the Spare position doesn't spin (hopefully!).

Something other than the spinning motion apparently distinguishes which corner of the vehicle each spinning sensor (stem) is signaling from. LF, RF, LR, RR, etc.

of course.
the 3 Sensor receivers on the body of the J**p can distinguish from which tire a signal is arriving based on the strength of the signals at the receivers.

 

[azwjowner]

exactly; the pressure sensor doesn't transmit until it's been spinning for a bit. the tire in the Spare position doesn't spin (hopefully!).

How fast do you have to roll the Jeep down a hill to get it to start transmitting? Let's hope no one finds out.

 

[Ratbert]

I only do a 4 tire rotation, X fronts to rear and rears to front same side. I have done this on all my rigs since I got out of the military at 5,000 mile intervals and have always gotten even tread wear and long life from my tires...

Lot's of opinions on this but Ford recommends this for their Raptors, RAM recommends it for my TRX, Jeep shows it in their owners manual...Plus if you do decide to change size or brand of tire, you now have a never-on-ground tire to sell to help offset the cost of your new ones!

Our owners manual states:

This spare tire may be used in the tire rotation for your vehicle.

That's the same text that's in the RAM manual.

Sure, you can enjoy the "pleasure" of attempting to sell an aged single tire (everyone loves doing that, right?) at a reduced price compared to new from a shop, or you can get ~20% more life out of the set and actually use what you paid for.

 

[JL ME]

It is foolish to not do a five-tire rotation if you have a full-sized spare. You are basically throwing away a new tire at some point.

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