mopar lift question

[AC77]

Did you happen to take a picture of the P/Ns of the upper isolators? Should be able to prove it out that way pretty quick.

i will, haven't done that yet . the RK video posted above , showing to cut the 2 rubber nipples and rotate then ( top ones) but then should i install the RK lower pads like before or the Mopar ones from the lift kit ?

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[zouch]

to your original question:

yes, i put adjustable front and rear Track Bars in after i put the Mopar (Fox) lift under my EcoDiesel Willys because i needed to get the axles squarely back under the vehicle. FWIW, the lift took my Willys up over 4" at the front axle, and almost 3" at the rear axle. the front came back down about 1" after adding a winch and matching bumper.

i put a Rear Track Bar Relocation bracket in later to correct the Roll Center (which helped get rid of the 'wiggle'), and because of it ended up adjusting the track Bar back to where it was about stock length. were i to do it again, i think i'd try adding the Relocation Bracket to see if that put everything back where it belonged before doing a rear Track Bar.


to your later issue;
here are some pics of the front springs with the Mopar pads for your reference. there's a little bit of outward spring bow, but this is after 35K miles/3years, and nothing seems to be making any untoward contact.

Hello, anyone who has installed their Mopar lift kit, did you also replace the rear track bar ?

 

[AC77]

to your original question:

yes, i put adjustable front and rear Track Bars in after i put the Mopar (Fox) lift under my EcoDiesel Willys because i needed to get the axles squarely back under the vehicle. FWIW, the lift took my Willys up over 4" at the front axle, and almost 3" at the rear axle. the front came back down about 1" after adding a winch and matching bumper.

i put a Rear Track Bar Relocation bracket in later to correct the Roll Center (which helped get rid of the 'wiggle'), and because of it ended up adjusting the track Bar back to where it was about stock length. were i to do it again, i think i'd try adding the Relocation Bracket to see if that put everything back where it belonged before doing a rear Track Bar.


to your later issue;
here are some pics of the front springs with the Mopar pads for your reference. there's a little bit of outward spring bow, but this is after 35K miles/3years, and nothing seems to be making any untoward contact.

Did you cut the upper pads the little locating nubs and rotate them ? There is an RK video link one of the gentlemen posted on this convo. Can you please show your from track bar a close up of how far you have set the adjusting head maybe with a tape measure or a caliper ? Also during the install did you notice the factory left spring of was small and passenger side larger with a step up ?

 

[zouch]

i didn't use RK stuff, so comparos of the adjustment wouldn't necessarily be relevant.

not sure what you meant by "...spring of...", but i don't recall this many years later the differences of anything from side to side; just followed the instructions at the time (which were known to have errors; later revisions were revised to swap spring numbers, for example).

Did you cut the upper pads the little locating nubs and rotate them ? There is an RK video link one of the gentlemen posted on this convo. Can you please show your from track bar a close up of how far you have set the adjusting head maybe with a tape measure or a caliper ? Also during the install did you notice the factory left spring of was small and passenger side larger with a step up ?

 

[AC77]

i didn't use RK stuff, so comparos of the adjustment wouldn't necessarily be relevant.

not sure what you meant by "...spring of...", but i don't recall this many years later the differences of anything from side to side; just followed the instructions at the time (which were known to have errors; later revisions were revised to swap spring numbers, for example).

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[AC77]

to your original question:

yes, i put adjustable front and rear Track Bars in after i put the Mopar (Fox) lift under my EcoDiesel Willys because i needed to get the axles squarely back under the vehicle. FWIW, the lift took my Willys up over 4" at the front axle, and almost 3" at the rear axle. the front came back down about 1" after adding a winch and matching bumper.

i put a Rear Track Bar Relocation bracket in later to correct the Roll Center (which helped get rid of the 'wiggle'), and because of it ended up adjusting the track Bar back to where it was about stock length. were i to do it again, i think i'd try adding the Relocation Bracket to see if that put everything back where it belonged before doing a rear Track Bar.


to your later issue;
here are some pics of the front springs with the Mopar pads for your reference. there's a little bit of outward spring bow, but this is after 35K miles/3years, and nothing seems to be making any untoward contact.

thanks for the photos , looking at the left side spring , im assuming the coil terminates toward the back ?

 

[AC77]

One more possibility @AC77 watch the video
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...-one-coil-rubs-on-tie-rod.104959/post-2193057

RK has new flat uppers available too.

i will attempt this as well

 

[AC77]

to your original question:

yes, i put adjustable front and rear Track Bars in after i put the Mopar (Fox) lift under my EcoDiesel Willys because i needed to get the axles squarely back under the vehicle. FWIW, the lift took my Willys up over 4" at the front axle, and almost 3" at the rear axle. the front came back down about 1" after adding a winch and matching bumper.

i put a Rear Track Bar Relocation bracket in later to correct the Roll Center (which helped get rid of the 'wiggle'), and because of it ended up adjusting the track Bar back to where it was about stock length. were i to do it again, i think i'd try adding the Relocation Bracket to see if that put everything back where it belonged before doing a rear Track Bar.


to your later issue;
here are some pics of the front springs with the Mopar pads for your reference. there's a little bit of outward spring bow, but this is after 35K miles/3years, and nothing seems to be making any untoward contact.

did you install the lift yourself ? could any of this have to do with being on a driveway at a slope and lifted the front ? i mean its not rocket science , im going to check the upper spring pads, i think they have left and a right , and according to RK, cut the 2 nubs and rotate them , i think it may straighten the spring from up top and a bit away from touching the frame rail

 

[Willys_Wonka]

Mopar does not have a adjustable or longer track bar, front or back.
I used Rancho's bought on Amazon. It's very solid. I think they're made in USA.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JVC8KGP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yeti also makes a nice adjustable HD front track bar.

 

[AC77]

Yeti also makes a nice adjustable HD front track bar.

I've installed front and rear's JKS , i really want to see what's everyone's adjustment on their front track bar ... just as a baseline.... with a 2" lift

 

[AC77]

also , can anyone confirm based off the part numbers if the front spring part numbers are as follows :

68488667AA RF ( according to the manual )
68488666AA LF ( according to the manual )
maybe these are reversed for the Diesels ?

 

[Willys_Wonka]

I've installed front and rear's JKS , i really want to see what's everyone's adjustment on their front track bar ... just as a baseline.... with a 2" lift

Mine was professionally installed, sorry I can’t help ya out with measurements.

 

[Roky]

I've installed front and rear's JKS , i really want to see what's everyone's adjustment on their front track bar ... just as a baseline.... with a 2" lift

Front track bar 34-3/16 center to center of connecting bolts…..37-9/16 rear track bar….. these will get you very close, depending on how much lift you get might need fine tuning, but these measurements will get your axle centered enough that it won’t be the cause of your spring bow…..

 

[AC77]

Front track bar 34-3/16 center to center of connecting bolts…..37-9/16 rear track bar….. these will get you very close, depending on how much lift you get might need fine tuning, but these measurements will get your axle centered enough that it won’t be the cause of your spring bow…..

thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dayusmc]

i put a Rear Track Bar Relocation bracket in later to correct the Roll Center (which helped get rid of the 'wiggle')

What is the wiggle you are talking about (I am new to JLU)? I bought an adjustable rear track bar for my wife's High-Tide that I haven't put in yet. But I always wondered what would be the difference in the adjustable rear track bar and the relocation bracket.

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