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I hate to tell you this but unless it's an exotic/supercar buying a new vehicle is never a wise investment. These aren't going to retain any more value than any other Wrangler. The good news is Wranglers retain their value better than almost any vehicle or there, but it's still far from an investment. Unless you get a significant discount under invoice it will be worth less than you paid for it the day you drive it home. Sorry to piss on your party.
Clearly this guy didn’t see what happened with the C8. I would never classify a base corvette a super car or exotic. First allotment buyers were flipping those for profit.





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Clearly this guy didn’t see what happened with the C8. I would never classify a base corvette a super car or exotic. First allotment buyers were flipping those for profit.
Well sure but for how long? This guy is talking about long-term investment. I could have sold my 2019 JLUR for a profit for probably the first year cuz I got such a smokin deal on it but that's not what we're talking about here.
 

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Well sure but for how long? This guy is talking about long-term investment. I could have sold my 2019 JLUR for a profit for probably the first year cuz I got such a smokin deal on it but that's not what we're talking about here.
According to the little bit of financial literacy I've picked up recently: a vehicle is considered a depreciating asset. So, unless it's a high dollar, highly specialized, super limited production run, and you're treating it like a museum piece for the next 20+ years- it's not technically an investment, because it is not guaranteed to go up in value. If you buy it and flip it for a profit, that's a windfall. A quick, one time profit. Someone who is much smarter with money and finances can probably get deeper in on this if anyone cares.
TL;DR: This thought process is the equivalent of the person who lists "$20k invested in upgrades- No low balling, I know what I have" on their shitty vehicle they're trying to off load on Craigslist, expecting to get more money than they paid simply because they spent it.

Consider this: What are the resale prices on MOST classic, low mileage, low production Jeeps now? That could be a decent indicator.

That said: I'm interested. Curiously watching this whole process and how things work out with pricing, and also longevity/ use. If I end up with one, it'll get 37's and see some trail time- so it definitely won't be considered an investment.
 
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Also, "generally" you're right. But this isn't a general car or wrangler for that matter. Its like a Rolex and if they don't flood the market with them in 22 and 23 it'll be a nice investment purchase

You mean like the Dodge Viper's?.. :giggle:
 

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Anyone know the width of the 392 beadlock capable wheels? Are they 8"? Trying to see if they could run 35" tires. Thanks
 

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Anyone know the width of the 392 beadlock capable wheels? Are they 8"? Trying to see if they could run 35" tires. Thanks
There is a YouTube video made my Adventure Architects where they do a walk around of the concept 392 and interview one of the Jeep people and they discuss the wheels. However, I am unsure if the concept and production wheels will be similar in spec.
 

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Anyone know the width of the 392 beadlock capable wheels? Are they 8"? Trying to see if they could run 35" tires. Thanks
7.5”. Should still be fine with 35s just may need spacers.
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According to the little bit of financial literacy I've picked up recently: a vehicle is considered a depreciating asset. So, unless it's a high dollar, highly specialized, super limited production run, and you're treating it like a museum piece for the next 20+ years- it's not technically an investment, because it is not guaranteed to go up in value. If you buy it and flip it for a profit, that's a windfall. A quick, one time profit. Someone who is much smarter with money and finances can probably get deeper in on this if anyone cares.
TL;DR: This thought process is the equivalent of the person who lists "$20k invested in upgrades- No low balling, I know what I have" on their shitty vehicle they're trying to off load on Craigslist, expecting to get more money than they paid simply because they spent it.

Consider this: What are the resale prices on MOST classic, low mileage, low production Jeeps now? That could be a decent indicator.

That said: I'm interested. Curiously watching this whole process and how things work out with pricing, and also longevity/ use. If I end up with one, it'll get 37's and see some trail time- so it definitely won't be considered an investment.
Totally agree, and let me give you an extreme example from the year I was born:

Let's say two friends each had $3,000 burning a hole in their pockets in 1955. One buys a brand new 1955 Porsche Speedster and the other, because he can't drive a stick, invests his $3,000 in the S&P 500. The dork (who can't drive a stick in 1955?) was dumb because 356 Speedsters are now one of the most sought after, best appreciating classic vehicles, ever - worth almost $300K today. 100x more than the original price. Great investment - right? Actually the non-stick shift guy's stock is now worth $350K and he didn't have to insure, maintain, and store the car for the last 65 years. And...the Speedster buyer wasn't allowed to drive it often for fear of damaging his investment.

The Porsche example was with PERFECT hindsight. Expecting a positive financial experience through investing in motor vehicles is largely a myth.

And...a 2021 Jeep ain't no '55 Porsche.
 
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Clearly this guy didn’t see what happened with the C8. I would never classify a base corvette a super car or exotic. First allotment buyers were flipping those for profit.
Comparing a C8 to a Wrangler 392 is like comparing apples to the planet Pluto.
 

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Jeep is not releasing price. He also said no discounts (last one he gave me 8% off MSRP). He mentioned some dealerships going to go 20k over asking. I told him if it's over 65 he can sell it to someone else.
My local Chevrolet dealership said the same thing when we inquired about the new mid-engine Corvette.
 

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Comparing a C8 to a Wrangler 392 is like comparing apples to the planet Pluto.
That was never my point or comparison? You took that completely out of context. That comment was made to a previous post stating that 'No new vehicle will be worth more once off the lot'....
 

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Body color flares and hardtop as well as leather tools be a no go for me. Too bad they don’t give options on those
My exact thoughts too (except for the leather) after I saw that. Totally a personal choice but I've never liked the colored flares or hard tops for some reason. It's still year one and they're trying to limit options as much as possible it seems since they're building so few of them. Maybe it'll change after that.
 

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My exact thoughts too (except for the leather) after I saw that. Totally a personal choice but I've never liked the colored flares or hard tops for some reason. It's still year one and they're trying to limit options as much as possible it seems since they're building so few of them. Maybe it'll change after that.
Body colored flares and top were always a no go for me. I mean, those pieces are always in brush and branches, getting scratched, etc.. Then I got married...
 

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