I'm not a Jeep guy :(

[Sean L]

Is a discussion on whether morals are objective or subjective next on the thread derailment agenda?

Had a perfect scene from "True Grit" in mind... but its not on the first page of a YouTube search, so it will never be posted here....

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[PhrogUSMC]

I'd venture to say, the vast majority of Wrangler owners have other vehicles in the household (including the OP). If I want handling and performance, I jump on my BMW M2. My gf commutes in an EV. The Jeep is for weekend fun and for not giving 2 f$@# going over the giant potholes infesting the roads around here.

P.S. My fridge has Burgers, Vegie Burgers (gf is Vegan) and hotdogs. Just like the garage.

We have other vehicles in our driveway, but they're all Jeeps. Lol

 

[LostinBigBear]

I LOVE my Jeep, but my dude does not! He prefers his Tahoe as well! Oh well, you know what they say! Opposites attract! I recently got it back from the collision shop, and I was going to ask him to drive it to see how it felt, but then I thought, how would he know? He’s only driven it a handful of times in the three years I’ve had it!

So I bought a 2023 Willy's Sport for my wife (which SHE loves and daily drives most days). I get the appeal for its simplicity and being a "jeep" but after a few weeks of ownership I rarely drive it and don't care to.

Now I don't regret the purchase because it's not MY Jeep but I thought it would be different to hear from someone from my perspective on why someone DOES NOT like a Jeep! lol. Not bashing but it's like if you're a burger guy and keep getting hot dogs, other people prefer the dogs. Also this is a low trim Jeep so I'm not going to complain that it doesn't have leather, power windows/doors, etc. I know the higher trims have all that.

1. The biggest thing is the ride is harsh and not smooth at all, it's like I'm driving a little toy truck on the road with suspension so stiff it jars it's like driving with no shocks. Almost like a one of those plastic toy cars you buy from walmart with plastic wheels. It's night and day ride to my daily which is a 2026 Tahoe with magnetic ride and air suspension, that drives like it's on a cloud. Maybe if I didn't have that truck I wouldn't notice.

2. Sound insulation and road noise is prevalent, have to actually raise your voice to talk in this thing. Especially if your crusin at 80mph on the highway.

3. I know they make more powerful engines than the V6 in mine, but it can barely get out of it's own way.

4. Handling is piss poor, I think if I took a curve hard I'd be on my roof lol.

5. Interior space is small and uncomfortable, also cargo space is limited. It also has a tow hitch but the tow rating is non-existent. This is a #5 low complaint because I know it's just the design of the vehicle but affects it as a "daily driver".

Maybe some more, but I know if I took it "off road" it would shine.

But I don't know how you guys daily drive these things!

 

[yokramer]

I LOVE my Jeep, but my dude does not! He prefers his Tahoe as well! Oh well, you know what they say! Opposites attract! I recently got it back from the collision shop, and I was going to ask him to drive it to see how it felt, but then I thought, how would he know? He’s only driven it a handful of times in the three years I’ve had it!

Let me guess he orders his steaks medium well when he doesnt order a chicken dish?

 

[Remorseless]

Awwwww, you poor, “innocent” thing!

Innocence is widely considered to be relative, functioning more as a subjective perception, a social construct, or a matter of degree rather than an absolute, binary state. It can, under certain narrow definitions, be considered absolute IN THAT MOMENT, but only in the specific, highly defined context of that moment.

In the context I was using it in my post, it is not absolute. Ever. It is relative to knowledge and experience. It is relative
to perspective and social context. It is relative to morality.

I can see you and I derailing this thread further, in which case we are providing a valuable service.

That's a lot of words to fail at trying to justify using "innocence" wrong

 

[LostinBigBear]

Let me guess he orders his steaks medium well when he doesnt order a chicken dish?

over the years, I’ve taught him how to order his steak

 

[Remorseless]

Is a discussion on whether morals are objective or subjective next on the thread derailment agenda?

I suppose that depends on if you are Batman or not

Or if you're OP, his wife, or the boyfriend, or the chair in the corner of the hotel room

 

[PhrogUSMC]

This entire thread reminds me of an incident that three posters here were involved in - literally a life-and-death story (albeit a fictional one). Here’s that story.

@Terrymo (Terry), @yokramer (Kramer), and @reaperhwk (Reaper) were on safari in a very remote area of Africa. One day, they were surrounded and captured by a tribe. Things became very tense very quickly, as they were each tied tightly to their own pole buried deeply in the ground.

The chief, who spoke English, stepped forward to the first of the three men, Terry. The chief eyed him and said, “I give you two choices. Boola-boola or death!”

Terry, being the pragmatic and intellectual sort, wanted to live. He didn’t know what “boola-boola” was, but he sure knew what death was, so there must be a difference - even though there were worse things than death. But Terry had lived a very hard life, and was a survivor. With great trepidation, Terry unsurely replied, “Boola-boola. I will take boola-boola.”

The chief turned to his tribe and commanded them in a loud voice, raising one arm, “Boola-boola!”

The tribe swarmed forward and jumped on Terry, brutally and sloppily rump-wrangling him, all the while screaming “boola-boola” over and over again. A long 15 minutes later, they stepped back, sweaty, repositioning their groin cloths. Terry was slumped against the pole, his torn pants around his knees, covered in man-juice and sobbing, but happy to be alive.

The chief stepped to the second hapless man, Kramer. Kramer was trembling now, after watching the tribe enthusiastically “do their thing” with Terry. “I give you two choices. Boola-boola or death!”

Well, the remaining two men now knew what “boola-boola” was. But Terry was alive, he was untied, and he was being tended to by the women of the tribe. With tears in his eyes, Kramer meekly said, in a high-pitched voice, “I will take boola-boola too.”

The chief turned to the tribe, raised one arm, and said loudly, “Boola-boola!”

The scene repeated itself, madly humping native butts gleaming in the hot sun, Kramer squealing and crying, the tribesmen shouting “Boole-boola” over and over again. 15 minutes later, they were finished - but Kramer was still alive.

The chief stepped up to the third, very defiant man, Reaper. Reaper was a man’s man, very macho and authoritative, very sure of himself. He had lived a long, glorious life, a wealthy man in the twilight of his career, who, oddly enough, drove a Chevy Tahoe. He did not fear death, and there was NO WAY he would allow the tribe to have its way with him. He scowled into the chief’s face, spit on the ground, and growled “I take death!”

The chief was very surprised by this. This man was strong, sure of his convictions. The tribe had never encountered a man like Reaper before. The chief said to Reaper, with a puzzled look on his face, “Are you sure?”

Reaper looked him in the eye and said “Death. Bring it.”

The chief shrugged his shoulders, turned to his tribe, raised both arms and shouted “Death! By boola-boola!”

Death by snu-snu! Except less fun.

 

[jeepingib]

Speaking of chili, anyone ever try a peanut butter sandwich with their chili? If not, you're missing out.

The one that I've come across was eating cinnamon rolls with the chilli, which I found a bit odd.

 

[Reflektr]

Good to know, I just want to be careful not to get banned here because I really like almost all of you except for @reaperhwk haha!

I’ve never been banned from a forum, but I did get banned from the Mall for life back when I was 18. So there’s that.

 

[yokramer]

The one that I've come across was eating cinnamon rolls with the chilli, which I found a bit odd.

Thats big here in Colorado apparently which threw me off when we did a chili cookoff at work after moving here.

 

[PhrogUSMC]

Just got back from a week-long trip, drove a new 4Runner the whole time. It was a the most boring thing I’ve driven in a long time, just a car with all the damned safety nannies. Probably right up the OP’s alley-

850 miles back in December. Half of that through the mountains during a blizzard at night. Definitely wasn't boring. Lol

 

[Ratbert]

How many people say they’re out and they don’t care but they can’t stand not coming back to see what people are saying

I'm with what @2nd 392 said earlier:

 

[GinaC]

Props for at least not calling it a car?

Or "truck". That's what I usually hear.

 

[PhrogUSMC]

Yeah but their shenanigans are cruel and tragic, mine are cheeky and fun

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