How much????? Insanity

[Demonic]

Name 3.

I know several personally, but I don't think you'd recognize their names

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[misanthrope]

I know several personally, but I don't think you'd recognize their names

Probably Tony, Jeff and Mike. Those guys and their beemers, am I right?

 

[xjgary]

Let’s say you get 18 MPG with the 3.6 and drive 12,000 miles per year. That equals 666 gallons of gas per year. At $2/ gal that is $1333 per year fuel cost.

Jeep says the PHEV should get 50 MPG. So the same calculation equals $480 in fuel cost.

the difference is $853 per year. So with a $20k premium, it will take approximately 23.4 years to break even. Lol

that diesel isn’t looking that bad compared to those numbers.

You live where they have cheap gas. I drive at least twice that much every year and gas at the "Cheap" station in my city is $3.31/gal for regular. The Chevron across the street from it is $3.49. So using 24,000 miles a year/$3.31 per gal and your methodology, the cost difference is $2820 per year. It would take 7 years to break even on a $20k premium. And unless problems show up, this model will demand a premium price when used. In CARB states the traction battery, electric motors, and associated parts are warranted for 10 years/150,000 miles. And the feds are giving $7500 tax rebates. Some states are doing that also.

 

[eLECTRICON]

https://www.jeep.com/wrangler-4xe.html

 

[StanleyCup99]

https://www.jeep.com/wrangler-4xe.html

Nice find!

 

[Chris Hall]

We have pricing

 

[Demonic]

Maybe someone should check my math, but this seems like a smaller increase in price than expected. A standard base Rubicon 4 door starts at $42,390 MSRP. When you add the standard features already included in the Rubicon 4xe - Alpine premium audio and 8.4 display, LED lighting group, and the Rock-Trac (along with 2.0T and automatic transmission), MSRP then comes up to $49,270. The Rubicon 4xe starts at $51,695 and includes these options, so only a $2425 increase between a Rubicon 4xe and a Rubicon 2.0T automatic with the same options?

 

[Pappy06]

Exactly, all the early numbers that came out were just fillers for order. I got very similar numbers.

 

[texasbryan]

Now the question is...will the dealers be willing to offer any discounts off of MSRP for the 4xe?

 

[BrntWS6]

Jeep site says sahara 4xe msrp starts at $47,995. Standard Sahara msrp starts at $39,500. Cant see options on the 4xe yet to compare build for build.

 

[JustinWPI11]

Jeep site says sahara 4xe msrp starts at $51,695. Standard Sahara msrp starts at $39,500. Cant see options on the 4xe yet to compare build for build.

This is what I’m seeing on the Jeep site

 

[Pappy06]

Small print below says $51,695 for the Rubi unlimited. If you do a build for the 2.0 automatic and add Rock trac, led group, painted flares, 8.4 screen and premium audio, and automatic trans it will be apples to apples.

 

[phobos512]

Small print below says $51,695 for the Rubi unlimited. If you do a build for the 2.0 automatic and add Rock trac, led group, painted flares, 8.4 screen and premium audio, and automatic trans it will be apples to apples.

Which is $48,470 in white before destination which the little asterisks proclaim is excluded from the 4xe listed prices. So a delta of $3225.

 

[BrntWS6]

Just an FYI get an estimate for a fast charger. The install can get pricey depending on where your panel is located.

 

[texasbryan]

Just an FYI get an estimate for a fast charger. The install can get pricey depending on where your panel is located.

I think a fast charger will typically be unnecessary with the 4xe. I also own a Telsa so I have a lot of experience with an electric vehicle. When the vehicle is all electric, a fast charger is crucial because you can completely charge the Tesla battery in about 6 hours with a 240V charging system. With the 4xe, you also have a gas engine to rely on so you would rarely be in a situation where you HAD to charge the battery as quick as possible. A 110V system will usually charge a battery at a rate of roughly 3 to 4 miles of range per hour of charging. So the 25 mile battery of the 4xe could be completely charged with 110V in about 6 to 8 hours. For most people, charging it overnight with 110v would be sufficient. Having said that, having the ability to fast charge when desired could be a nice luxury for some. I hope that helps.

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