Sponsored

Diff fluid - Wrangler JL

grimmjeeper

Well-Known Member
First Name
Roy
Joined
May 6, 2021
Threads
13
Messages
8,282
Reaction score
41,348
Location
Castle Rock, CO
Website
www.grimmjeeper.com
Vehicle(s)
2021 Wrangler, 1987 Comanche, 1997 F250
Build Thread
Link
Occupation
enginerd

roaniecowpony

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2018
Threads
192
Messages
12,890
Reaction score
20,363
Location
SoCal
Vehicle(s)
2018 JLUR, 14 GMC 1500 CC All TERRAIN
Occupation
Retired Engineer
I am betting that Dana would say two things:

1. FCA - stop reducing the oil capacity in our axles.
2. FCA - stop telling Jeep owners to deviate from the 75W-140 that we recommend.
Stumbling around the internet in the wee hours. Browsed some papers on axles. Found one that studied the churning losses and thermal effects. As you might have guessed, churning losses/temperature are affected by viscosity and fill level. What surprised me was that churning losses were comparable to the frictional losses in the study.

I recently changed the gear oil in my 14 GMC truck diffs. IIRC, they are low capacity as well. The rear probably being just under 2 qts.

Since your axles are instrumented now, it would interesting to see direct test comparisons of viscosity effect on temperature as well as fill levels, while keeping test parameters as close as practicable.
 

TxJeepers

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2017
Threads
113
Messages
1,118
Reaction score
1,349
Location
USA
Vehicle(s)
2025 JLUR '41
This has been an interesting read. The Valvoline in pouches looks good but question, can you put the version with the limited slip additive in Rubicons? Or do you have to explicitly get gear oil without for Rubicons with lockers?
 

CarbonSteel

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 21, 2019
Threads
305
Messages
5,795
Reaction score
8,212
Location
Colorado
Vehicle(s)
2001 Cherokee; 2023 Bronco Wildtrak; 2024 Grand Cherokee 4xe
Vehicle Showcase
1
This has been an interesting read. The Valvoline in pouches looks good but question, can you put the version with the limited slip additive in Rubicons? Or do you have to explicitly get gear oil without for Rubicons with lockers?
Yes; the limited slip additive will have zero impact on the lockers. At this stage, you would be hard pressed to easily find a synthetic gear oil that does not have the additive in it.
 

Sponsored

Rhinebeck01

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 9, 2018
Threads
169
Messages
12,679
Reaction score
19,158
Location
Ormond Beach, Florida
Vehicle(s)
'18 JL Rubi, '26 Cybertruck, '01 Harley FatBoy
Occupation
Retired at 55 ..

TordFuglstad

Well-Known Member
First Name
Tord
Joined
Jun 7, 2023
Threads
19
Messages
103
Reaction score
123
Location
Norway
Vehicle(s)
Jeep JL 2.2D
I'm unable to find the Valvoline pouches here in Norway.

Would Lucas oil or MSOIL SEVERE GEAR be good alternatives?

Thanks!
 

Fatbob Frank

Well-Known Member
First Name
Frank
Joined
Nov 4, 2024
Threads
0
Messages
1,111
Reaction score
4,732
Location
N.E. Iowa
Vehicle(s)
2024 Wrangler Willys
Occupation
Lab Tech
I'm unable to find the Valvoline pouches here in Norway.

Would Lucas oil or MSOIL SEVERE GEAR be good alternatives?

Thanks!
Either one.
I prefer Amsoil Severe Gear personally...
 

roaniecowpony

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2018
Threads
192
Messages
12,890
Reaction score
20,363
Location
SoCal
Vehicle(s)
2018 JLUR, 14 GMC 1500 CC All TERRAIN
Occupation
Retired Engineer
I'm unable to find the Valvoline pouches here in Norway.

Would Lucas oil or MSOIL SEVERE GEAR be good alternatives?

Thanks!
LiqiMoly, mobil, Shell, Castrol should be available iin Norway. The specifications call for GL-5 gear oil.
 

Sponsored

kdiff

Well-Known Member
First Name
Kurtis
Joined
Aug 25, 2022
Threads
12
Messages
105
Reaction score
88
Location
Castle Rock, CO
Vehicle(s)
392 Rubicon, Sprinter
Just installed Dana Spicer AdvanTek front and rear diff covers on my 2025 JLURX. Filled with Valvoline 75W-140 front and rear per Dana Spicers recommended specification.
Do you happen to remember about how much oil you used in total? I’m going to have the gears changed out and replace the stock covers with the Dana AdvanTek covers. They look like they might be a bit bigger in internal volume though I don’t know until the stock covers are removed. Did you get the grey, blue or primed version? I got the primed. Going to paint them black. Also, did you reuse the stock gaskets?
 

PunksJL

Well-Known Member
First Name
Paul
Joined
Jun 30, 2022
Threads
37
Messages
277
Reaction score
438
Location
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Vehicle(s)
2025 Rubicon X 2.0T Bright White
Occupation
Retired
Do you happen to remember about how much oil you used in total? I’m going to have the gears changed out and replace the stock covers with the Dana AdvanTek covers. They look like they might be a bit bigger in internal volume though I don’t know until the stock covers are removed. Did you get the grey, blue or primed version? I got the primed. Going to paint them black. Also, did you reuse the stock gaskets?
I bought 4 of the 1 quart flex packs but only ended up using 3 total to get both the front and rear refilled. I doubt the covers change the internal volume based off my observations.

I bought the grey version and they look very nice. I did reuse the stock gaskets and the hardware that was provided with the covers. You could reuse the factory bolts as they are the same length and grade. I torqued them to about 22-24 lb. ft.

Jeep Wrangler JL Diff fluid - Wrangler JL IMG_1356


Jeep Wrangler JL Diff fluid - Wrangler JL IMG_1359
Sponsored

 
 







Top