Dependabilty of E-Torque

[No IFS]

Thanks for the personal jab. As I said before, for me (and probably most etorque owners) it's more about the performance difference than the battery price anyway.

You quoted me first to tell me that your batteries die every year. That’s stupid. If your battery’s dying every year somethings wrong obviously. Duh. And not a compelling argument to purchase a new jeep with E torque. Lol

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[kah.mun.rah]

You quoted me first to tell me that your batteries die every year. That’s stupid. If your battery’s dying every year somethings wrong obviously. Duh.

Stupid? There you go again. The purpose of a forum is to share experiences so that readers can get a holistic education on a topic. If someone's experience does not match yours, it does not mean that they are stupid or that something is wrong with them (as you publicly point out). In fact, you owning an original aux battery for over 4 years is probably just as rare as me having to replace mine every year. Neither is stupid or wrong.

Duh. And not a compelling argument to purchase a new jeep with E torque. Lol

You are correct. That is why I previously said, " Batteries aside, it’s the performance difference that makes the etorque worth it to me even if I keep it and have to pay $1,200 in 8 years for a new 48V battery." and "for me (and probably most etorque owners) it's more about the performance difference than the battery price over time anyway."

 

[No IFS]

Done, ignore list

 

[No IFS]

I totally understand that there’s a lot of pro E torque people out in the world because that’s all you can get right now. But that doesn’t change the facts and physics and reality of the two systems. One of the big pluses of the 392 is no E torque or ESS. It’s mentioned in every other post. The most expensive Jeep has the least amount of complicated emissions. Imagine that.

 

[JLUandCJ-7]

I have a 2020 eTorque V6 at 32,000 miles and haven't had a bit of trouble.

It's also the base engine on the Ram 1500. I'm pretty sure the reliability is quite good.

 

[Tncdrew]

I totally understand that there’s a lot of pro E torque people out in the world because that’s all you can get right now. But that doesn’t change the facts and physics and reality of the two systems. One of the big pluses of the 392 is no E torque or ESS. It’s mentioned in every other post. The most expensive Jeep has the least amount of complicated emissions. Imagine that.

Not everyone wants a V8 Jeep, or cares to spend that much on an "occasional' toy. Me for example, I wanted a 2dr, V6, auto trans... so etorque was my only choice (in a new Jeep). As much as I've enjoyed my past Jeeps with manuals, my knees can't take it anymore.
And hey, stupid me... I've actually grown to like the drive train! ?

 

[Mtrctylarry]

Myself and 2 of my best friends we all have the 3.6 motor. I have e torque and they do not. One drives a Rubicon Gladiator and the other a Rubicon Wrangler. I 100% notice a difference in acceleration and smoothness off/on the throttle. It's different. As far as torque goes, I notice a power difference in the pedal in 4lo when crawling, I felt more umpfff from the get go. Normal cruising speeds/driving I couldn't tell. That's an honest review from me, could it be subjective and in my head, sure but both my friends said a similar thing when they drove my Jeep.

Can you put a 1.5 amp battery maintenance charger on a 3.6 etorque engine if you had your Jeep in storage for a few months?

 

[Dailydrivenwrangler]

Yes. It has a normal car battery under the hood. You can absolutely put a maintainer on it while in storage.

 

[jc1003]

Our Sahara with e-torque is much smoother than our van with ESS. On my third ESS battery in the van.

 

[mnjeeper]

1. It smoothens out the start of the ESS
2. One benefit that is much less reported but much more significant IMO, is the eTorque helps you retain your MPG after putting on larger tires

1. I was told, this is because the starter isn't used with ESS, just the 48V. I honestly don't notice the ESS.
2. Probably negligible. IIRC it's something to expect like 1 MPG.
3. It also supplements torque up to the first 2K RPM, which is why they feel a bit peppier.

With 8 years...if they start dying at 9, I'd expect an aftermarket solution to delete, or get the battery cheaper.

 

[Xcoaste]

I like it and it works well.
If you plan to modify your engine, know that you might be limited to what you can add to it. Currently, I am not aware of superchargers or tuners that are compatible… if you are into that stuff.

 

[UniqueUserName]

I would have ordered my 22 XR without eTorque if that was an option. However, I will say that I've been entirely pleased with having the eTorque motor. It's the only vehicle that I leave ESS enabled because it's so seamless. I also consider it a major plus to not have the motorcycle battery kludge in my Wrangler.

 

[flyer92]

Like others, I was also a bit skeptical about eTorque, but it was the only way to get the 3.6L engine and 8-speed AT on my 2021 2-door Sport. Can't say that I'm impressed with how "smoothly" it engages after a full stop, but I'm a little OCD about this stuff and hypersensitive to engine/tranny noises in the first place.

Other than that, I've found the system to be much more reliable than ESS and appreciate the additional/noticeable torque when accelerating from a full stop. As others have mentioned, it makes up for larger tire sizes (to a point), and I've been able to maintain about 22 mpg with combined city/freeway driving. That said, I am one of those nerds who uses the fuel mileage gauge to milk every possible mile out of each tank, and my JL is a bone stock 2-door Sport with soft top and rear seat removed. I recently installed a new set of Willy's takeoffs which are a bit larger and about 7lbs heavier than the Sport's stock rim/tire combo, but haven't seen any decrease in gas mileage. YMMV, but unless you are concerned about the additional battery, I'd highly recommend eTorque. Hope this helps and happy Jeepin'!

 

[oldcjguy]

I like it and it works well.
If you plan to modify your engine, know that you might be limited to what you can add to it. Currently, I am not aware of superchargers or tuners that are compatible… if you are into that stuff.

I have a 2.0 etorque and a tuner. Don't know about the 3.6

 

[Elada20]

You quoted me first to tell me that your batteries die every year. That’s stupid. If your battery’s dying every year somethings wrong obviously. Duh. And not a compelling argument to purchase a new jeep with E torque. Lol

Dude, you are going personal here. There is no need for that. I had 3 wrangles in 4 years, 2 with e torque and one without. There is a difference and if available I would only choose e torque. Just because you don’t have it doesn’t mean it’s crap. My2c.

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