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Plug it if possible. Only a big hole would I get the spare down.
I was just mostly meaning that it sounds like @zrickety just left his Jeep since he said he wouldn't change a a tire on the trail. Makes sense that he wouldn't since his signature says he has no spare. Kinda hard to change to a spare if you don't have one!
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Will it fit under the axle with a flat tire?
I believe so, I think it goes down to 11". I have used for a flat on my TJ a while ago and it worked no problems.
 

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I believe so, I think it goes down to 11". I have used for a flat on my TJ a while ago and it worked no problems.
You might give it a try at home by pulling the schrader valve and trying it out, before you have to do it on the trail/roadside.
 

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I believe so, I think it goes down to 11". I have used for a flat on my TJ a while ago and it worked no problems.
He does make a good point, I haven't tried myself either, but when I did my measurements, it was about 13" from ground to the lower control arm bracket with tires aired up, so with a flat and lifting from the axle tube instead, I think we should be okay.

Worst case, i'll just bust out the factory scissor jack to get it up higher to fit the bottle jack.
 

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a Hi-Lift has gotten me out of a couple spots where a regular jack couldn't have gotten any purchase. The Hi-Lift is a more versatile tool (including that it can work as a big clamp) than a bottle or scissor jack because there are plenty of times on the trail when you can't position a bottle or scissor jack where you'd need to, or it can't reach what it needs to reach.

But for just raising an axle on the trail, a bottle or scissor jack is safer and easier if you're on level enough ground to use it.
It's easy to make a case for carrying both a Hi-Lift and bottle/scissor since they do different jobs the other is not good at. But I admit I haven't carried my Hi-Lift on a trip in a while.
 

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He does make a good point, I haven't tried myself either, but when I did my measurements, it was about 13" from ground to the lower control arm bracket with tires aired up, so with a flat and lifting from the axle tube instead, I think we should be okay.

Worst case, i'll just bust out the factory scissor jack to get it up higher to fit the bottle jack.
Yeah, definitely a great point. I know I used it on my TJ with 33" tires, I don't remember exactly where I placed the jack, but I was able to use it/jack it up and change my flat tire. Same here I'll break out the factory jack worse case. ?
 

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Haven't had to do that but I don't carry the spare either.
I don't have that kind of luck, honestly, I wouldn't drive to my local store, right up the road to buy a gallon of milk without a spare tire. That's just me.
 

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a Hi-Lift has gotten me out of a couple spots where a regular jack couldn't have gotten any purchase. The Hi-Lift is a more versatile tool (including that it can work as a big clamp) than a bottle or scissor jack because there are plenty of times on the trail when you can't position a bottle or scissor jack where you'd need to, or it can't reach what it needs to reach.

But for just raising an axle on the trail, a bottle or scissor jack is safer and easier if you're on level enough ground to use it.
It's easy to make a case for carrying both a Hi-Lift and bottle/scissor since they do different jobs the other is not good at. But I admit I haven't carried my Hi-Lift on a trip in a while.
I ran a mid level trail a few weeks ago with only my big scissor jack. I have a HiLift and a Teraflex mount for my tire carrier. I just didn't get around to putting it on. I ended up getting a flat on a dirt road at night, by running over a hook of a ratchet strap laying in the road. It put a big hole in the tire. My buddy was driving my pickup truck right behind me and I had my aluminum floor jack in there with the extensions. The big scissor jack was in the cubby of the jeep. I grabbed the floor jack and a cordless Milwaukee impact. ?
 

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I don't have that kind of luck, honestly, I wouldn't drive to my local store, right up the road to buy a gallon of milk without a spare tire. That's just me.
It's like carrying around a dead body on the back. I've needed the spare exactly one time in 31 years, and that was a screw in the tire that went flat overnight on my Honda.
 

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I have used the factory jack on pavement btw, and it worked great in that scenario.
 

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It's like carrying around a dead body on the back. I've needed the spare exactly one time in 31 years, and that was a screw in the tire that went flat overnight on my Honda.
I've had more tire issues on trails than I have in probably the last 20+ years on road. I guess if you don't wheel then it's likely less of an issue. Had I not had a spare on the trail, I'd have not only been 3 hours from home, but also likely mid trail and not easily accessible without a decent hike out if I had no one else with me. If I had another tire issue when those had happened I'd have to use someone else's spare.
 

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I've had more tire issues on trails than I have in probably the last 20+ years on road. I guess if you don't wheel then it's likely less of an issue. Had I not had a spare on the trail, I'd have not only been 3 hours from home, but also likely mid trail and not easily accessible without a decent hike out if I had no one else with me. If I had another tire issue when those had happened I'd have to use someone else's spare.
Well, I don't want to derail the thread, but I have had a 'minor' tire issue at Windrock with the spare back at camp. Still able to drive. Wife and kids were in an atv, so we were using the buddy system if things got bad.
 

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It's like carrying around a dead body on the back. I've needed the spare exactly one time in 31 years, and that was a screw in the tire that went flat overnight on my Honda.
Dude, I'm a flat tire magnet! I seem to hit and pick up everything. I just bought a brand-new full set of tires for my daily commuter, on my way to work, (same day) I ran over one of those steel plates for road construction, BAM! blew out a brand-new tire on the side wall no less! I've had blow outs on the interstate at 70 mph for no flipping reason. It freaks me out so bad I don't know if my poor old heart can take anymore. I may have developed PTSD from it idk. :crying:
 

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I've had more tire issues on trails than I have in probably the last 20+ years on road. I guess if you don't wheel then it's likely less of an issue. Had I not had a spare on the trail, I'd have not only been 3 hours from home, but also likely mid trail and not easily accessible without a decent hike out if I had no one else with me. If I had another tire issue when those had happened I'd have to use someone else's spare.
I bought a Chevy Sonic a few years ago, I looked in the trunk, it came with a can of fix a flat and a cheap little 12 volt air pump, no Spare tire! That's not gonna work me....
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