Changing Tire on the Trail???

[J0E]

Funny, I was just looking at this low boy to add to my collection.
Amazon.com: BAOSHISHAN Low Profile Bottle Jack 10 Ton Double Ram Jack 4-7/8’’ to 8-7/8’’ Lifting Range Hydraulic Jack Stubby Short Welded Bottle Jack : Industrial & Scientific

That won't lift enough to change a 38 on my JLR or a 43 on my LJR. You don't need 10 tons, the 4 ton is overkill.

EDIT
The BAOSHISHAN 12 Ton High Lift Bottle Jack 9.25" to 23.23" would provide enough lift but not require driving over a rock.

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[Flip]

That won't lift enough to change a 38 on my JLR or a 43 on my LJR. You don't need 10 tons, the 4 ton is overkill.

EDIT
The BAOSHISHAN 12 Ton High Lift Bottle Jack 9.25" to 23.23" would provide enough lift but not require driving over a rock.

I have a 21" jack but as someone pointed out I might need a smaller jack to get under the axle. I have a scissor jack too but I've never been a fan. Carrying an extra jack isn't a bad idea, I get a lot of flat tires.

 

[J0E]

Not exactly.

When you have a flat, the axle is about 6" off the ground. You need a jack that will fit under that height or you have to dig out a hole for a taller jack to fit, or drive the flat tire up on a rock (further exposing the tire to damage). Once you get a jack under the axle of a flat tire, you have to jack it whatever height your flattened sidewall expands to with air. This is where having a low scissor jack works well and guys that bought a bottle jack using measurements under their axle when their tire was inflated, are going to be surprised when they get a flat.

I carry spacers. I've seen at least 10 youtubes on jacks and they test the jack with the tire full of air. They get surprised when they get a flat on the trail.

 

[Flip]

All this talk about jacks made me realize they have a lot of different mounts for farm jacks but what about a mount for a heavy duty (beefy) hydraulic jack? Some of these can weight quite a bit. A bumper mounting option would be nice, safer out of the way, I'd be interested in one.

 

[J0E]

Not to change the subject but does anyone carry a battery powered impact to change out a flat tire? If so which brand, do you have that actually has enough torque to remove the lug nuts?

This Ryobi is a torque monster. Use it to change tires, run the scissor jack. Carry 4 batteries, 4 tiny compressors to air up, 12" chain saw, 3 lights, angle grinder, 3/8 right angle driver, recip saw, and more.

 

[roaniecowpony]

This Ryobi is a torque monster. Use it to change tires, run the scissor jack. Carry 4 batteries, 4 tiny compressors to air up, 12" chain saw, 3 lights, angle grinder, 3/8 right angle driver, recip saw, and more.

I like that angle grinder idea. Last flat I had, the steel belt was frayed and sticking thru. A disk grinder and some patches fixed it up at a tire shop. But, I'd like that capability for the trail in a real pinch.

 

[txj2go]

Interesting! I had not thought of that scenario at all, clever. This is a time where a hi-lift would likely be necessary. A bottle jack likely would struggle in this scenario.

My point was that there are lots of different scenarios and most of them will not be easy. It might be a struggle with any jack. Be prepared to work at it.

 

[GATORB8]

Not to change the subject but does anyone carry a battery powered impact to change out a flat tire? If so which brand, do you have that actually has enough torque to remove the lug nuts?

Milwaukee M12 fuel 1/2”. Tiny and does it’s job. Plus you can charge M12 batteries via USB.

 

[J0E]

I like that angle grinder idea. Last flat I had, the steel belt was frayed and sticking thru. A disk grinder and some patches fixed it up at a tire shop. But, I'd like that capability for the trail in a real pinch.

Carry thin kerf metal blade for cutting metal and think grinding wheel for smoothing the sidewall as shown on utube.

Run 295/70R17 E rated KO2's on my TJR after blowing too many sidewalls on K02 C rated. The pat's guys here tear a sidewall every time we crawl one river bed. Half the price of Nitto's and 1% the sidewall strength. My 38x13.5R17 Nittos are only D rated, but the sidewall is so think I needed to add a spacer to my beadlocks.

Everyone should carry starting fluid to reseat a bead, unless you have dual beadlocks. Practice that at home, just like you should practice tire change with trail gear at home with a flat tire, in your yard, not the driveway.

 

[smokeythecat]

I went with a bottle jack. But I still wanted to look cool so I mounted it on the hood.

 

[PatriotX]

I carry the factory scissor jack, but supplemented by a Mercedes Sprinter double-ram bottle jack with 25” of lift And a high-lift jack base.

This allows for jacking of the Jeep or off-road trailer at multiple jack points, depending on failure.

PLEASE BRING WHEEL CHOCKS AS WELL. !

 

[Oncorhynchus]

This thought process started with me realizing that I don't have good jack points for my hi-lift jack on my Rubicon XR with factory steel bumpers and rock rails. It quickly turned to reading a variety of threads where while some are pro hi-lift jack as a recovery tool, but surprised that many MANY are against it as a safety hazard. So after reading multiple articles and countless posts, what I am not clear on is what the recommended way to change a tire on the trail? Do the experienced folks lean towards a repair instead of a tire change as their plan A? Is there some kind of bottle jack that is preferable to a hi-lift? I know I need to purchase some new gear, but not sure if I need a soft shackle or other hi-lift jack accessories to create safer jack points or go in another direction entirely. I've thought I was pretty well prepared, only to find that after thinking through the scenario in detail that I'm not nearly as prepared as I thought I was for a flat tire while wheeling. Thanks all for the input.

I used to carry a hi-lift with the accessory that clips onto the wheels. Dominion Off-road hi-lift mount was very nice. I didn’t like mounting the jack outside the Jeep because the mechanical elements get exposed to more dirt and corrosion. It looks like a simple tool but it does require maintenance.

I realized after a while that my primary need was for something to change the tire, not all the different things that a hi-lift can do. I rehabilitated my injured shoulder so that I could lift a spare 110 lb tire on/off the back of the Jeep by myself. And I went with a scissor jack. Details are in this thread.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/my-new-scissor-jack-setup.68147/

 

[GATORB8]

I used to carry a hi-lift with the accessory that clips onto the wheels. Dominion Off-road hi-lift mount was very nice. I didn’t like mounting the jack outside the Jeep because the mechanical elements get exposed to more dirt and corrosion. It looks like a simple tool but it does require maintenance.

I realized after a while that my primary need was for something to change the tire, not all the different things that a hi-lift can do. I rehabilitated my injured shoulder so that I could lift a spare 110 lb tire on/off the back of the Jeep by myself. And I went with a scissor jack. Details are in this thread.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/my-new-scissor-jack-setup.68147/

Looks like a great setup. To confirm, you have clearance under axle tube at full flat?

Can't remember if I mentioned it before, but I had a partial failure with the stock extension bar at the hook. I replaced with a new OEM, but probably something to think about. The hook istelf yielded and twisted into a corkscrew, was able to finish the tire change and get it back down.

 

[roaniecowpony]

I used to carry a hi-lift with the accessory that clips onto the wheels. Dominion Off-road hi-lift mount was very nice. I didn’t like mounting the jack outside the Jeep because the mechanical elements get exposed to more dirt and corrosion. It looks like a simple tool but it does require maintenance.

I realized after a while that my primary need was for something to change the tire, not all the different things that a hi-lift can do. I rehabilitated my injured shoulder so that I could lift a spare 110 lb tire on/off the back of the Jeep by myself. And I went with a scissor jack. Details are in this thread.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/my-new-scissor-jack-setup.68147/

Which brings up another issue. I'm not a big guy, I'm old, with arthritis and my 37s are well over 100 lbs. I can get the spare down, but putting the flat back up on the carrier is a two person job for me. I have an idea to make up a little rope hoist to quickly attach to the Teraflex spare carrier.

 

[GATORB8]

Which brings up another issue. I'm not a big guy, I'm old, with arthritis and my 37s are well over 100 lbs. I can get the spare down, but putting the flat back up on the carrier is a two person job for me. I have an idea to make up a little rope hoist to quickly attach to the Teraflex spare carrier.

I could swear I saw something for this, but I can't find it.

I did find where someone puts a drop hitch in sideways and rolls the tire up on it. Sounds like that may be helpful.

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