Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

[PsychoTrucker81]

Manual sasquatch is coming in MY22. No word on whether Ford will ever make the manual trans with the 2.7 though.

I would have to test drive and see how the 2.3 performs...if it is anything similar to the 2.0 Jeep, I’d have to pass

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[Dash68]

Or this?? big difference and who knows now.

The wheels wells look much better in more line with the early bronco in this concept. I'm having a hard time getting past the partially round segmented fender flares on the new bronco. I think ford was thinking they had to have actual fender flared 'cause the wrangler has fender flares. This image proves they could have done a much better job designing the wheel openings without need extended fender flares.

 

[danzy55]

As with the turbo, I bet it sadly won't be available with the manual transmission.

Sadly I agree, I love my 6apd nothing against autos but I enjoy being engaged when driving

 

[Spence]

I had a reservation for a Badlands Bronco to replace my Sport S but, after delays and delays and delays, I cancelled the reservation and bought a new Rubicon. From what I was seeing it would have been late 2021 before we could have taken delivery. I was also considering a Warthog but then I'd be waiting until maybe late 2022.

I also cancelled my reservation and found used Sport S that I couldnt pass up. Even during these unforeseen times, Ford continuously made mistake after mistake with their launch. Maybe in a few years once a new model come out I will consider a Bronco again.

 

[aeonixx1001]

I don't care for their styling either. It looked good back in the early 70's and I get the 'nostalgic' cues but damn... Jeep keeps streamlining and it looks better than ever while Ford resurrects a rolling brick design from the 70s.

It's still WAY to early to tell imo and I'd never buy a $50k (or more!) sight unseen. There hasn't even been a valid test of the vehicle yet. If it's as awesome as Ford is trying to make everyone believe, and real world testing backs up their claims, maybe I could get past the blocky design.

Will it look like this??

Or this?? big difference and who knows now.

It looked like the yellow one. I thought it had its doors off but it must be some mod to let mud in?

 

[PyrPatriot]

To be fair, there are some extraordinary circumstances behind the Bronco's delays.

Which are...?

 

[COBill]

Which are...?

Supposedly parts provider issues due to COVID.

 

[Rodeoflyer]

Yeah, doesn't exactly strike me as being "class leading".

But not to worry folks, Ford will carry this over to the bronco.

Really hard to judge..being that it doesn't really exist yet lol. Unless Ford worked some kind of black magic with the control arms I can't see it out articulating a solid axle jeep with simple upgrades like a 2.5 spring lift and non-binding control arms/swaybar links. If it does it would have to be half a foot wider than a jeep.. who knows. Their marketing suggests more of a high speed mini-raptor with Jeep stuff (removable doors, top etc).

 

[PyrPatriot]

Supposedly parts provider issues due to COVID.

That's everyone. Unacceptable excuse. I was thinking it was more of Ford firing all of their contractors (or so I heard)

 

[ThirtyOne]

So to me, this is a cool look and very non-Wrangler. Now, I would have that white interior trashed in about 2 weeks. But I dig it. Even though I will probably never buy a Bronco, I am looking forward to the release.

 

[Headbarcode]

To be fair, there are some extraordinary circumstances behind the Bronco's delays.

Definitely true. But Ford still chose to unveil this thing, when we were already neck deep in delays due to covid and a lot of other easily avoidable stupidities. If they unleashed their mini movie on us 6 months earlier, they'd deserve some slack.

And because I can't help myself

 

[COBill]

There’s no such thing as bad PR when launching a new halo vehicle.

It gave people a lot to talk about and they are collecting interest on an untold number of $100 “deposits” - that’s free cash for them.

 

[sf5211]

My favorite option is storing doors and roof in cargo area for long trips. However on most long trips my cargo area is full of necessities. Cooler, supplies, clothes, recovery stuff etc. This means I’d have to load the back seat with my stuff and have no doors to keep said stuff from falling out on the highway. Hmmm, me thinks for now I’ll keep my Jeep.

 

[PyrPatriot]

My favorite option is storing doors and roof in cargo area for long trips. However on most long trips my cargo area is full of necessities. Cooler, supplies, clothes, recovery stuff etc. This means I’d have to load the back seat with my stuff and have no doors to keep said stuff from falling out on the highway. Hmmm, me thinks for now I’ll keep my Jeep.

I speculate that the in-vehicle door storage was for those "spontaneous" times you want to go naked when you are away from home (ie driving from work)

 

[Richtor]

I had my JL for less than a month when reservations went live for the Bronco. At the time, I figured a refundable $100 is easy enough to put down should I not find myself happy with the Jeep. I've been absolutely thrilled. Never loved a vehicle more than my JL. It's been awesome and remains awesome. If only the weather would warm up, so I could get out and work on it. I have a few accessories sitting in my garage waiting to be added.

Anyway, I got the call from Ford yesterday about my reservation. "Your Bronco is ready to be built," said the eager salesmen at my local dealership. At of curiosity, I spent a fair amount of time last night looking at the Bronco options. The sheer number of models and options for this thing are over the top. Configuring one is no easy task and they get expensive (over $50k is what I'd deem expensive) quick. Having my 18' Sahara JL (with upgraded Rubi tires, steel bumper, etc) as a reference - pricing those things into a Bronco easily put me over that mark. I think I ended up at $55k for a well equipped 4-door Badlands with Sasquatch.

I'll probably let my $100 sit at Ford for a while longer. Absent any of these on the road or reviewed vs the deep history and track record of our Wranglers makes it a risky bet.

FWIW, I was told Sasquatch is available and my order would be delivered in Q4.

Also, not playing favorites, but the Bronco forum seems to lack the community, moderation and general good will I've experienced here.

You’re comparing a Sahara to the BL SAS in price? Haha. When comparing the 2dr rubi to the 2dr BL SAS I get a bronco that’s $3k cheaper. My bronco will be $5k cheaper. Price is very comparable.

When they initially announced that sharp 7 speed manual, I was interested. When I saw pictures of it, I was ready to buy one. When they came out and said that the 7 speed, with a creeper gear that is purposes for off road would not be available with the 2.7 OR the Sasquatch package, I tapped out.

2.3 goes very well in the heavier ranger. With badlands you get most everything the sas offers. Add the 35 tires and your good to go.

I don't care for their styling either. It looked good back in the early 70's and I get the 'nostalgic' cues but damn... Jeep keeps streamlining and it looks better than ever while Ford resurrects a rolling brick design from the 70s.

It's still WAY to early to tell imo and I'd never buy a $50k (or more!) sight unseen. There hasn't even been a valid test of the vehicle yet. If it's as awesome as Ford is trying to make everyone believe, and real world testing backs up their claims, maybe I could get past the blocky design.

Will it look like this??

Or this?? big difference and who knows now.

The first one and it looks bad ass. Valid test? Rubicon or moab is not valid. Now video is showing them running 70-80 mph off road is crazy!

JL looks great as it looks like the cj5/7. Bronco looks badass! Tribute to the original and goes like hell off road with 90% of the Jeep crawling. Job well done.

I’ve already mention the $5k cheaper price tag than Jeep is charging for its 2dr rubi...

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