Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

[Sgt Beavis]

I had a reservation for a Badlands Bronco to replace my Sport S but, after delays and delays and delays, I cancelled the reservation and bought a new Rubicon. From what I was seeing it would have been late 2021 before we could have taken delivery. I was also considering a Warthog but then I'd be waiting until maybe late 2022.

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[ThirtyOne]

The one thing that Bronco has that peaks my interest over my JLUS is the availability of that awesome 2.7 Ecoboost. Jeep really need to offer a solid, affordable, well powered option for the JL. While I do like my Pentastar, it lacks the low end grunt and is just slightly underpowered for the 4 door IMO. I had a 2.0 turbo rental JLU and wasn’t a fan...very peaky powerband, but horrendous from a stop. The 3.0 diesel is a good option, but pricey and comes with all the problems of any modern diesel with after treatment systems. Then the 392...which a good amount of people can’t afford. Why not a 5.7 option, or what happened to the twin turbo inline 6 they’ve been teasing for the last few years?!

I agree and have said it many time - the inability to bring the i6 turbo to the market is a huge issue for FCA. It leaves the 5.7 filling that slot across their whole US lineup which is too big and not efficient enough. Can't get help there from PSA because their focus is smaller engines. Hopefully it will still happen, but I'm beginning to doubt it.

 

[danzy55]

I had a reservation for a Badlands Bronco to replace my Sport S but, after delays and delays and delays, I cancelled the reservation and bought a new Rubicon. From what I was seeing it would have been late 2021 before we could have taken delivery. I was also considering a Warthog but then I'd be waiting until maybe late 2022.

yup Ford managed to screw up their biggest new vehicle launch in decades.. Who knows maybe a couple years down the road I'll get into one but not until all the bugs are figured out, hype dies down.

 

[brewdad]

I agree and have said it many time - the inability to bring the i6 turbo to the market is a huge issue for FCA. It leaves the 5.7 filling that slot across their whole US lineup which is too big and not efficient enough. Can't get help there from PSA because their focus is smaller engines. Hopefully it will still happen, but I'm beginning to doubt it.

Go to wagoneerforums.org website and click on Wagoneer Powertrains; the turbo inline 6 will show up in the wagoneer late this year, a few months after launch. The high output version will be around 525 horsepower.

 

[danzy55]

Go to wagoneerforums.org website and click on Wagoneer Powertrains; the turbo inline 6 will show up in the wagoneer late this year, a few months after launch. The high output version will be around 525 horsepower.

I thought I had heard rumors about an straight 6 coming back think it was code name hurricane or something like that. Now that would be AWESOME!

 

[PsychoTrucker81]

I agree and have said it many time - the inability to bring the i6 turbo to the market is a huge issue for FCA. It leaves the 5.7 filling that slot across their whole US lineup which is too big and not efficient enough. Can't get help there from PSA because their focus is smaller engines. Hopefully it will still happen, but I'm beginning to doubt it.

Go to wagoneerforums.org website and click on Wagoneer Powertrains; the turbo inline 6 will show up in the wagoneer late this year, a few months after launch. The high output version will be around 525 horsepower.

Once they cram it into a Wrangler, I’ll be trading in lol

 

[west tex]

I was very enthusiastic about the new Bronco and put down $100 to reserve a spot. When the dealer wouldn't give me even a ball park idea on delivery and online discussions were saying 6-18 months, I decided to go with a 2021 2dr Wrangler, instead. Waiting on delivery right now, hoping it'll show up by April.

 

[COBill]

Will it look like this??

Wow, will Ford actually make them in FJ Cruiser Cavalry Blue?

 

[COBill]

I thought I had heard rumors about an straight 6 coming back think it was code name hurricane or something like that. Now that would be AWESOME!

As with the turbo, I bet it sadly won't be available with the manual transmission.

 

[Sgt Beavis]

yup Ford managed to screw up their biggest new vehicle launch in decades.. Who knows maybe a couple years down the road I'll get into one but not until all the bugs are figured out, hype dies down.

To be fair, there are some extraordinary circumstances behind the Bronco's delays.

 

[ThirtyOne]

Go to wagoneerforums.org website and click on Wagoneer Powertrains; the turbo inline 6 will show up in the wagoneer late this year, a few months after launch. The high output version will be around 525 horsepower.

I hope they are right, but their source is moparinsiders, who have been pushing this rumor for years.

 

[Bradley]

When they initially announced that sharp 7 speed manual, I was interested. When I saw pictures of it, I was ready to buy one. When they came out and said that the 7 speed, with a creeper gear that is purposes for off road would not be available with the 2.7 OR the Sasquatch package, I tapped out.

Manual sasquatch is coming in MY22. No word on whether Ford will ever make the manual trans with the 2.7 though.

 

[Nomad]

My thoughts on all of your thoughts.

i actually like the styling of the Bronco concept, not as much the production version.

I too bought the first year JL but I needed to replace my one and only vehicle so I took the risk. I think I’ve had to deal with every recall as a result. Still love it (when it’s working) and I was tired of passing on a vehicle I always wanted.

If Jeep stuffs in a new I6 for the mid cycle I’ll likely trade in for it. I wouldn’t even require it to have a turbo. 30 more hp and lbft, especially in the low end, would suit a 2dr just fine in my opinion. But of course there’s no such thing as too much power as long as it doesn’t correspond with too much money.

No reason to switch to a Bronco in my book, unless it gives me substantially more for substantially less money.

 

[Headbarcode]

Ya, doesn't look like much room for tire travel either.

Yeah, doesn't exactly strike me as being "class leading".

But not to worry folks, Ford will carry this over to the bronco.

 

[COBill]

No reason to switch to a Bronco in my book, unless it gives me substantially more for substantially less money.

Like not reducing engine torque because it thinks the clutch is getting too hot…

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