Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

[word302]

Hmm, perhaps, it is after all based off the Escape, which is now a tiny car (compare to what it used to be). Might very well be the dimensions of a Compass.

I thought Trailhawk was the 120k Cherokee ...or am I thinking of something else?

well...i just saw Jared's pic and he said approx same size as Cherokee, so I retract that. I don't think the Escape chassis is modular like VW's chassis, I don't know though.

The Trackhawk is the high dollar grand Cherokee. Trailhawk is just the off-road trim package.

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[Jeeperob]

The Trackhawk is the high dollar grand Cherokee. Trailhawk is just the off-road trim package.

ah, keep in mind my 120k is Canadian dollars lol

 

[word302]

ah, keep in mind my 120k is Canadian dollars lol

Still, that would be the Trackhawk for that price.

 

[ASMSAS]

I saw a lot of old restored lifted Broncos driving around Balboa Bay last week and a several doorless Jeeps. I still think I'd rather be a passenger in a Bronco instead of a driver. Maybe it's just the old ones but they look top heavy with a huge turn radius for the divers to deal with but also fun to sit up high in back on the big bench seat with a nice view and lots of space in the back.

The Jeeps, even the old ones look more agile probably because they are overall smaller. But I'm allowed to judge without driving. It's my opinion. And every other vehicle my family has owned has been a Ford (F150s and Exploders). I love my husbands F150 but I love my Jeep because it does NOT drive like a Ford. But I don't want to sit in the back of it. Especially not with the top on, you can barely see anything out the windows.

 

[rallydefault]

But I'm allowed to judge without driving. It's my opinion.

Sure, who told you otherwise? It's just that anyone interested in the facts aren't interested in your opinion.

After following all of this for a long time, my final plan is to test drive a 2-door bronco hopefully late 2021 or early 2022. If I like it, awesome, I'll trade my jeep for one. Life's too short to have brand tunnel vision and close off options. But it's also a good two years away realistically speaking, and I'm still enjoying my jeep, so I'm gonna go into a holding pattern until the bronco build and price appears. When that sucker comes out it'll be fun all over again lol

 

[twisty]

Trailhawks also add that fancy terrain selector, and a fake crawl mode. On Grand Cherokee, it also includes the air suspension, 18” GY Adventure ATs and seats with increased bolstering.

A long time ago I saw a Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk crawl its way up this fairly difficult obstacle course at Hungry Valley OHV Park in California. It was painful to watch the Cherokee struggle, groan, scrape and spin its tires in the air, but it was also very impressive to see a vehicle like that be able to do it. It gave me a lot of respect for what Jeep is able to achieve with electronics.

FIrst one that adds an antifa mode gets amazing sales numbers.

 

[aldo98229]

FIrst one that adds an antifa mode gets amazing sales numbers.

Dude, you need to stop watching that TV network so much...

 

[Jeeperob]

Sure, who told you otherwise? It's just that anyone interested in the facts aren't interested in your opinion.

After following all of this for a long time, my final plan is to test drive a 2-door bronco hopefully late 2021 or early 2022. If I like it, awesome, I'll trade my jeep for one. Life's too short to have brand tunnel vision and close off options. But it's also a good two years away realistically speaking, and I'm still enjoying my jeep, so I'm gonna go into a holding pattern until the bronco build and price appears. When that sucker comes out it'll be fun all over again lol

It shouldn’t be two years. June delivery for reservations (well that’s what’s currently scheduled). With that said I’m not sure when dealers will get some on the lot for test drives. Pretty sure I read that reservations are filled first, but it kind of doesn’t make sense to me. I would imagine some dealer orders would be intermingled with the reservations ...how else can they satisfy the people who want a test drive before buying? ...like yourself and maybe me.

Just find a friend with a reservation lol, you can drive theirs in June, just make sure they order it how you would lol

 

[ASMSAS]

Sure, who told you otherwise? It's just that anyone interested in the facts aren't interested in your opinion.

After following all of this for a long time, my final plan is to test drive a 2-door bronco hopefully late 2021 or early 2022. If I like it, awesome, I'll trade my jeep for one. Life's too short to have brand tunnel vision and close off options. But it's also a good two years away realistically speaking, and I'm still enjoying my jeep, so I'm gonna go into a holding pattern until the bronco build and price appears. When that sucker comes out it'll be fun all over again lol

You Ford fanboys are hopeless. You can't just say your own plan or opinion without stepping on someone else can you.

 

[COSJL]

It shouldn’t be two years. June delivery for reservations (well that’s what’s currently scheduled). With that said I’m not sure when dealers will get some on the lot for test drives. Pretty sure I read that reservations are filled first, but it kind of doesn’t make sense to me. I would imagine some dealer orders would be intermingled with the reservations ...how else can they satisfy the people who want a test drive before buying? ...like yourself and maybe me.

Just find a friend with a reservation lol, you can drive theirs in June, just make sure they order it how you would lol

IIn my opinion, they will not just make reservation orders first. They would want vehicles on the dealer lots for non-enthusiasts to test drive and buy. The enthusiasts are ging to wait if they have to. Jeep does the same thing. They aleady have 2021 models on dealer lots ahead of many who ordered months in advance. That just makes better business sense. Ford already has a footnote that says some of the orders won't be delivered until 2022, which makes sense if at least a decent percentage of the 160K orders actually turn into sales.

 

[aldo98229]

IIn my opinion, they will not just make reservation orders first. They would want vehicles on the dealer lots for non-enthusiasts to test drive and buy. The enthusiasts are ging to wait if they have to. Jeep does the same thing. They aleady have 2021 models on dealer lots ahead of many who ordered months in advance. That just makes better business sense. Ford already has a footnote that says some of the orders won't be delivered until 2022, which makes sense if at least a decent percentage of the 160K orders actually turn into sales.

That is correct. There are posts of people now putting in their “reservations” for...a spring/summer of 2022 delivery. That is two whole years down the road!

Let’s see...by 2022... JL PHEV and 392 would have been on the market for an entire year, and JL will be due for its mid-cycle redesign.

Sorry, but anyone putting a reservation 2 years before delivery of a vehicle they haven’t even seen...must be deficient on some sort of vitamin.

 

[twisty]

That is correct. There are posts of people now putting in their “reservations” for...a spring/summer of 2022 delivery. That is two whole years down the road!

Let’s see...by 2022... JL PHEV and 392 would have been on the market for an entire year, and JL will be due for its mid-cycle redesign.

Sorry, but anyone putting a reservation 2 years before deliver of a vehicle they haven’t even seen are deficient on some important vitamin.

I agree. Much of this is hype and it will die down once the next hype is unveiled somewhere. lol

 

[Jeeperob]

That is correct. There are posts of people now putting in their “reservations” for...a spring/summer of 2022 delivery. That is two whole years down the road!

Let’s see...by 2022... JL PHEV and 392 would have been on the market for an entire year, and JL will be due for its mid-cycle redesign.

Sorry, but anyone putting a reservation 2 years before delivery of a vehicle they haven’t even seen...must be deficient on some sort of vitamin.

lol, that's insanity. I 100% agree...by that time there will most "probably" be a Bronco Raptor or at least have a Bronco Raptor unveiled. Nobody knows this either...just all TFL conspiracies lol from "trusted sources".

And yes, probably be a Jeep JM by then haha.

 

[Jeeperob]

You Ford fanboys are hopeless. You can't just say your own plan or opinion without stepping on someone else can you.

If it's any consolation, your elaborated response yesterday made much more sense to me than the one from 3 or 4 days ago (which I responded to and started a diatribe of comments following my response).

I now understand your viewpoint. And yes, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But me personally, I never want to be a passenger in ANY car, truck, SUV, boat or anything lol...but that's just me. If I can drive it...I don't wanna be the passenger

 

[jeepingib]

lol, that's insanity. I 100% agree...by that time there will most "probably" be a Bronco Raptor or at least have a Bronco Raptor unveiled. Nobody knows this either...just all TFL conspiracies lol from "trusted sources".

And yes, probably be a Jeep JM by then haha.

I would take anything from TFL with more than a grain of salt. It wasn't even six months ago when Roman told his channel that an insider assured him that the Bronco would have a solid axle and the turbo V6 from the Aviator. He's wrong at least as often as he's right.

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