Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

With the Bronco launch, what team are you in?

  • I will stay with team Jeep

    Votes: 686 60.9%
  • I may jump to Team Ford

    Votes: 231 20.5%
  • I am staying out of this one for now. (in Eric Cartman’s voice): Screw you guys, I am going home.

    Votes: 108 9.6%
  • Is “both” an option because I am loaded and can afford both?

    Votes: 101 9.0%

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Punk'n Willy

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Those are my videos, shared with a buddy, who posted them on Bronco6G, which then proceeded to watermark them and claim them as their own exclusive. My buddy later convinced him to at least give me a video credit... A bunch of the pictures floating around are mine too.

Was an unexpected surprise to come upon the test fleet as we approached Buck Island Lake. Super cool to see them in action in their developmental phase, but I'll be keeping my JL thank you very much.

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I have a problem with that highlighted statement. Your buddy shouldn't have had to do anything, they should have given you credit from the start and not act like Ford invited them to come and capture the whole thing.
 

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2 things on the first video:

1) the driver doesn't listen very well. He clearly isn't following the line the spotter is laying out...and that meant the Bronco struggled more than it needed to.
2)the new Bronco must come with a really good skidplate package. I don't think a JL could drag that much belly without getting hung up....I would have liked to have seen the 4door behind the 2door get through that section.
+100 on those skids. No way I thought they could drag themselves over with three tires hanging.

In all, good videos of why the SFA in our Wranglers are simply superior for that type of trail
 

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I have been a Jeep guy forever and love my JLR 2dr. However, If I had the money I would buy a new 2dr bronco if they put a 302 in it. A 302 Bronco would definitely dent the hell out of Wrangler, couple that with real customer service and trained techs, what a concept. I would have both in my garage.
 

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I have been a Jeep guy forever and love my JLR 2dr. However, If I had the money I would buy a new 2dr bronco if they put a 302 in it. A 302 Bronco would definitely dent the hell out of Wrangler, couple that with real customer service and trained techs, what a concept. I would have both in my garage.
I have to admit, a 302 would be sweet.
 

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They seem to have a full belly skid (or maybe they did that just for this trip)...but I noticed the driver had the front locker off on that last belly dragging section in the 1st video and had to be told to turn it on.

I don't know that this video showed why SFA is superior though.....you'd almost need to follow the 2 dr Bronco with a stock 2 dr JL over the same or harder lines to really illustrate that. From what I could tell.....it appeared the Bronco's travel is similar to the JL's....in that neither are really impressive by aftermarket standards but are adequate for this level of wheeling and for a factory offering. I think that was pretty well illustrated in this video....at 55 seconds in....

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/data/video/20/20939-1947ed0f4a096c5775c1cff4d1cc7fad.mp4
Agree they didn't seem like particularly experienced drivers. But in various places it definitely lifted a tire where a Rubi with sway bar disconnected would not have. While it's contact pressure and traction that ultimately move a vehicle, 4 tires on the ground is almost ALWAYS better than 3.

If they change course and offer a 7 speed Sasquatch with 2.7, I would use my kids college fund to park one in my driveway next to my JL, not for off-road prowess but for on-road fun. But as the model lineup currently looks, no thank You
 

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What they did with the 7-speed is smart. It's not really a 7-speed in practical terms because you can only use 6 speeds on the road. So, on road it's going to be identical to the Jeep. But by using the transmission to do the crawl gear instead of the t-case like on the Rubicon Jeeps, they can technically call it a 7-speed and convince people who don't think for themselves that they've got something Jeep doesn't have. Brilliant.

The IFS is going to be inherently more trouble as time passes and guys keep beating it on the trail, it's going to be more expensive to lift properly, and we've already seen that it doesn't flex as well. Ford can keep posting "who needs solid axles?" on their social media, but they aren't fooling people who think for themselves.
 

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What they did with the 7-speed is smart. It's not really a 7-speed in practical terms because you can only use 6 speeds on the road. So, on road it's going to be identical to the Jeep. But by using the transmission to do the crawl gear instead of the t-case like on the Rubicon Jeeps, they can technically call it a 7-speed and convince people who don't think for themselves that they've got something Jeep doesn't have. Brilliant.

The IFS is going to be inherently more trouble as time passes and guys keep beating it on the trail, it's going to be more expensive to lift properly, and we've already seen that it doesn't flex as well. Ford can keep posting "who needs solid axles?" on their social media, but they aren't fooling people who think for themselves.
Many (most?) drivers don’t need solid axles.
 

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I have a problem with that highlighted statement. Your buddy shouldn't have had to do anything, they should have given you credit from the start and not act like Ford invited them to come and capture the whole thing.
Yeah, kind of ticked me off too. Would have been alright if they just left the videos as my buddy's post, but they deleted his post and turned it into their own admin post with the watermarking and whatnot. I'm not their damn field reporter, they're just lucky I've got a buddy on the Bronco pre-order list who also happens to be on their forum. My stuff is on TFL and Car and Driver now too! lol
 

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Yeah, kind of ticked me off too. Would have been alright if they just left the videos as my buddy's post, but they deleted his post and turned it into their own admin post with the watermarking and whatnot. I'm not their damn field reporter, they're just lucky I've got a buddy on the Bronco pre-order list who also happens to be on their forum. My stuff is on TFL and Car and Driver now too! lol
You're a better man than me, I'd be going after folks using my stuff without permission.
 

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looks like great competition for the Xterra
 

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That hurt my head to watch. I don’t think the drivers understand basic instruction. It really is cool to see something different crawling around but Fords got a ways to go. Jeeps look so much more refined doing their thing. Those broncos look like a teenagers first time..........
 

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Vehicle capability is important but is not a substitute for driver or spotter skill set. At the end of the day, making it thru the trail is what’s important. Those who seemingly over obsess ford vs Jeep will most likely never go beyond pavement and we won’t find these people in places like the Rubicon trail.
 

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