Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

[Headbarcode]

Bronco Sport maybe... the Bronco itself is based on the Ranger frame.

You're right. I should've used the terms car-like and truck-like.

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[Sean L]

You're right. I should've used the terms car-like and truck-like.

lol, I guess you were just referring to the controls?

 

[Headbarcode]

lol, I guess you were just referring to the controls?

Yeah, and the overall vibe of the vehicle. Even a lot of the more modern pickups feel like a car compared to their older counterparts, all in pursuit of being easy for anyone to drive without needing much driver engagement.

My 19 JLUR had real good steering right out of the gate, made much better by the full Steersmarts treatment. But I had to explain a couple things to my wife about why the steering isn't as crisp and surgical as regular vehicles. And also about why a brake pedal with a 1/4" throw doesn't belong on a utilitarian vehicle. She thought I was driving around with failing brakes.

 

[dhpt99]

I was always a Bronco fan (My full size bronco was my first car and had 2 EBs) and planned on getting one when they came out but the diesel engine, sky one touch top and solid axle sold me on the Jeep and not to mention I couldn't wait any longer for a Bronco.

 

[Sean L]

Yeah, and the overall vibe of the vehicle. Even a lot of the more modern pickups feel like a car compared to their older counterparts, all in pursuit of being easy for anyone to drive without needing much driver engagement.

My 19 JLUR had real good steering right out of the gate, made much better by the full Steersmarts treatment. But I had to explain a couple things to my wife about why the steering isn't as crisp and surgical as regular vehicles. And also about why a brake pedal with a 1/4" throw doesn't belong on a utilitarian vehicle. She thought I was driving around with failing brakes.

Yeah, I tried to explain the difference between 2HI, 4HI and 4LO to my wife but she lost interest pretty quickly, lol.

 

[Headbarcode]

Yeah, I tried to explain the difference between 2HI, 4HI and 4LO to my wife but she lost interest pretty quickly, lol.

Same here! So I doubled back and restarted by telling her that whatever she sees through the windshield, keep twisting the knob until she sees the same thing displayed on the dash.

I really hope that jeep gets its shit together! Why can't we have cartoon pictures of snow, mud, and sand on our dashes. I mean, how are we to know that we're ready?

 

[NMPirate]

I learned to drive in a 1971 Bronco with the 3 speed trans on the column. When they were first teasing that it would come back, I had my sights set on it. But with the wait, and after I saw the "reveal" of what it should be, I thought it would be best to get back into a Jeep. It kinda looks like a turd in the wind to me. Not what I was expecting. And I'm not a big fan of Fords gimmick type off road system. You shouldn't have to pick what type of terrain your driving in. Pull the lever into 4wd and drive it! And if you can't do that, then by a Ford.

 

[SoCal]

one of the biggest Jeepers on YouTube seems to love it.....

 

[sf5211]

This topic is why I am here. Just moved from Commiefornia to Arizona and after a few months here cancelled my reservation on my Badlands and bought a 21 Rubicon 4dr. I've never owned a 4x4 and a Jeep or old Bronco was always my dream truck growing up. I just got tired of waiting for the Bronco so I bought a Rubicon, pick it up in 2 days. Couldn't be happier. Just sad I waited till I am 55 to pull the trigger

I'm with ya Todd, I bought my first Jeep at 52 years old. I've since fell in love with them, made it my hobby and passion. I've replaced the political NFL with Jeeping and going up to the country. I too wish I bought one in my 20's.

 

[BlackGenesis]

Lucky! My wife is in the market for a car but thinks it's ugly. I do too on some of them, but the higher end ones look a tad better. I'm not real impressed with dial a trail technology of these new metro-sexual 4wd rigs, but I am interested in a 2.7 or 3.5 eco-boost. That has go to be fun!

Yes v6 EcoBoost are very fun, especially tuned. I love how my tuned 3.5TT Explorer pulls like a turbo diesel without going past 4k rpms.

Main attraction in Bronco is its drivetrain (with 2.7TT). Booletfroof engine with loads of torque (at this point) and reliable trans. Not saying that Wrangler is not reliable, just lacks 200wtq at 2.7k rpms compared to 2.7TT.

 

[twisty]

You're right. I should've used the terms car-like and truck-like.

Dunno. Thinking a ranger or even f150s heck all of em drive like cars. Suspension has gotten pretty good plus while most think ifs sucks for real wheeling they do drive car-like

 

[twisty]

Yes v6 EcoBoost are very fun, especially tuned. I love how my tuned 3.5TT Explorer pulls like a turbo diesel without going past 4k rpms.

Main attraction in Bronco is its drivetrain (with 2.7TT). Booletfroof engine with loads of torque (at this point) and reliable trans. Not saying that Wrangler is not reliable, just lacks 200wtq at 2.7k rpms compared to 2.7TT.

Yup. Then again that 392 should b sweet too. I just like the fact that fords don’t need premium gas necessarily

 

[BlackGenesis]

Yup. Then again that 392 should b sweet too. I just like the fact that fords don’t need premium gas necessarily

392 just cost too much extra....should be an option across all trims. Its more like Bronco warthog - price and power.
You can even have 87 octane tune on EcoBoost that still picks up 40wtq and 30whp over stock.

Some people go overboard (for about 3k) you can get some major power out of that Iron block.

 

[Oilburner]

I'll tell ya one thing, Ford is doing a much better job getting people's butts into their product & having reviews posted online. Meanwhile there are 4xe's sitting in a storage lot built & waiting to be shipped, and nobody even knows what size the battery is going to be, no reviews, Nothing. That $7500 tax rebate apparently buys a lot of faith!

 

[aldo98229]

I'll tell ya one thing, Ford is doing a much better job getting people's butts into their product & having reviews posted online. Meanwhile there are 4xe's sitting in a storage lot built & waiting to be shipped, and nobody even knows what size the battery is going to be, no reviews, Nothing. That $7500 tax rebate apparently buys a lot of faith!

I have been a supplier for several of the automakers over the years. I found working with Ford invariably got you tangled up in internal politics. It was impossible to get much done; everyone was so focused on themselves anyone rarely cared about getting actual work done.

The new head of Ford, Jim Farley, is well known to be quite a marketing guru, and very political. My guess is Ford’s internal politics must be on overdrive right now.

We will have to see if Farley is able to roll out new products that don’t catch on fire; that’s been quite a long tradition at Ford.