3.6 vs 2.0

[DadJokes]

There wouldn't be any let up for the ambient air to start making progress though, it would need a much more complex cooling system to beat that level of heat.
The cooling system has to overcome the exhaust manifold cooling as well, which under constant boost like that is probably pushing 1500*+, and that'll have a snowball effect. Hotter air getting pushed through a hotter intercooler, getting pushed into hotter cylinders.
As far as I know, the cooling system is the same between the two engines (radiator wise), so it'll be much more effective on the v6.

I think we said the same thing essentially. Now, it’s just conjecture on our part until it’s tested, which is unlikely.

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[danm]

All this debate about 3.6 vs 2.0 and nobody found the obvious answer... the EcoDiesel is the way to go. More torque than both those engines.

 

[DonBindas]

All this debate about 3.6 vs 2.0 and nobody found the obvious answer... the EcoDiesel is the way to go. More torque than both those engines.

What? A FIAT Diesel?

FIAT= Fix It Again Tony​

Whatever you are drinking, can I have some?

Please talk to a FCA Dealer Service Manager before you make that move....

 

[TrailJoy]

I didn’t go with the turbo because of the 48 volt electrical system and the premium fuel requirement.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's that just the etorque? Why not consider the 2L without it? The fuel is a recommendation, btw. It's not a requirement (although I think it should be).

 

[Wabujitsu]

FWIW, which may be nothing, I have pulled my 800lb trailer with a 625lb zero-turn mower (total weight approximately 1425lbs), about 40 miles, with NO increase in coolant or oil temperature. Towing speed was minimum 55MPH, maximum 75MPH. My Jeep is a 2.0T e-torque. It is only about 1/3 of the maximum rated towing weight though.

 

[L8Knight]

My 2 cents. I loved my 2.0 until I added 34s with a 2 inch lift. My millage dropped by almost 50 percent. It's now better in the city for millage than the highway.

 

[scrape]

3.6 non-hybrid: You intend to own and keep your vehicle well beyond factory warranty coverage.
2.0 non-hybrid: You intend to sell or trade your vehicle soon after the warranty expires.
3.6 hybrid: You will be trading or selling your vehicle before the warranty expires.
2.0 hybrid: You will be returning the vehicle when the lease is up.
3.0 diesel with EGR, DPF, DEF delete: You're a diesel engine vet who wants to tinker with this thing.
3.0 diesel without emissions bypasses: You enjoy driving a wide range of vehicles and look forward to getting behind the wheel of every car in your dealer's loaner fleet.

 

[mreloc]

3.6 non-hybrid: You intend to own and keep your vehicle well beyond factory warranty coverage.
2.0 non-hybrid: You intend to sell or trade your vehicle soon after the warranty expires.
3.6 hybrid: You will be trading or selling your vehicle before the warranty expires.
2.0 hybrid: You will be returning the vehicle when the lease is up.
3.0 diesel with EGR, DPF, DEF delete: You're a diesel engine vet who wants to tinker with this thing.
3.0 diesel without emissions bypasses: You enjoy driving a wide range of vehicles and look forward to getting behind the wheel of every car in your dealer's loaner fleet.

Is there any evidence that the hybrid is going to be troublesome? If anything, I believe it would be a wash since the hybrid results in a much more gentle ESS (vs using the starter motor) as well as smoother gear changes.

 

[ViperJon]

Is there any evidence that the hybrid is going to be troublesome? If anything, I believe it would be a wash since the hybrid results in a much more gentle ESS (vs using the starter motor) as well as smoother gear changes.

I think it was supposedly what passes for humor. Not sure.

 

[TrailJoy]

Is there any evidence that the hybrid is going to be troublesome?

Evidence? No... When grain free dog food came out it was a similar debate. How can we do long term testing on something that's only been out for two years? For the same reasons as why I opted out of the etorque, I didn't feed my dog grain free food. I just didn't trust it (yet).

 

[mreloc]

Evidence? No... When grain free dog food came out it was a similar debate. How can we do long term testing on something that's only been out for two years? For the same reasons as why I opted out of the etorque, I didn't feed my dog grain free food. I just didn't trust it (yet).

Yes, but, Mild hybrids have been in use since the early 2000's with Honda and GM- so hardly a new concept or technology. GM had some issues in 2009 with leaky batteries, but I can't find anything else that would point to problems or reduced reliability. It's pretty much just a battery and motor, after all, and eliminates the starter motor which is also a potential point of failure in ESS systems where it is put through many more cycles than conventional engine starting duty.

 

[TrailJoy]

It's pretty much just a battery and motor, after all, and eliminates the starter motor which is also a potential point of failure in ESS systems where it is put through many more cycles than conventional engine starting duty.

That's a very good point! I didn't realize that the mild hybrid concept had been around for that long, but now that I think about it you're absolutely right. But having said that, a turbo is a turbo, regardless of the vehicle. It's always called a Turbo (or turbocharged motor). The hybrid on the Jeep is called eTorque... is it called something else on other vehicles? And how different are they to the new eTorque? (eTorque is totally new to me, so I never even considered this before.) If you google eTorque reviews on the Ram, a lot of them seem to have problems failing pretty quickly. (edit: around 5th gen)

 

[AnnDee4444]

All this debate about 3.6 vs 2.0 and nobody found the obvious answer... the EcoDiesel is the way to go. More torque than both those engines.

Not if you want a 2-door.

My 2 cents. I loved my 2.0 until I added 34s with a 2 inch lift. My millage dropped by almost 50 percent. It's now better in the city for millage than the highway.

What's your gear ratio?

 

[Adventure.AS]

... the starter motor which is also a potential point of failure in ESS systems where it is put through many more cycles than conventional engine starting duty.

ESS will not cause premature wear on your starter. The engine is already warm and at least one cylinder is stopped at TDC to fire immediately.
Here is a good explanation.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1109687_dont-start-stop-systems-wear-out-your-cars-starter

 

[Fays4]

Drive both. Like most I had the same decision to make when I ordered my Rubicon. So far the 2.0 has proven to be a great motor with little to no evidence to support all the nay sayers reasonings. In my opinion both are great motors and it boils down to which one tickles your fancy while driving it. I rolled the dice and went with the 2.0. 8,000 miles later it has been an absolute joy to own.we are considering getting another Rubicon for the wife, if so it will have the 2.0 as well.. Drive both it is a personal choice with no wrong decision.

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