That's great to hear! And honestly, we're in a city where narrow parking is a pretty frequent part of life. The shorter wheel base seems beneficial on crowded highways and tight parking lots. Plus a little extra space in the garage never hurt anyone.
It's funny how 32s are considered small these days. 32s and 33s use to be considered massive back in the day. Even though people's opinions and technology has changed and 35s are the new 32s the reality is 32s are an extremely capable off road size tire. Always was always will be. There's always a give and take. Sure bigger tires are better for ground clearance and approach and departure angles for more extreme scenarios but they are also much harder on the vehicle and aren't as good in tight spaces.
I bought my sport S for 31.5k (MSRP 39k). I could not find a Rubicon for less than about 43k. This was back in 2019. I wouldve gladly pay 33 to 35k for a rubi.Skipping pages 3 and 4 because the “Rubicons are $10k more” lie bothers me so much. Can we just put it to rest with some simple math?
$39,765 - $36,365 = $3,400
(Rubicon base price minus Willys base price, 2-door)
This is the most applicable comparison based on standard features.
Comparing a Sport (at $29,070 base price) to a Rubicon isn’t really a meaningful comparison.
And both the Willys Sport and the Sport S are a lot less than $10k away from a Rubicon. Stop trying to make yourselves feel better about not getting a Rubicon, they aren’t as expensive as you think!
Is crazy world these days, bought my unlimited rubicon summer 2020 for 46k. It was just sunning itself on the lot though so not much negotiating room. Didn't know much about ordering before finding these forums.
The regular Willys (Sport S) does. Or you can add AC and half doors on the Willys Sport, which upgrades all the doors to power windows and locks. I personally think that's $2300 - 2500 well spent on the doors, and the half doors are a bonus.
JLU Willys Sport vs JLU Rubi is a decent price difference. I like the idea of a Rubicon but simply not in the budget for some of us.Skipping pages 3 and 4 because the “Rubicons are $10k more” lie bothers me so much. Can we just put it to rest with some simple math?
$39,765 - $36,365 = $3,400
(Rubicon base price minus Willys base price, 2-door)
This is the most applicable comparison based on standard features.
Comparing a Sport (at $29,070 base price) to a Rubicon isn’t really a meaningful comparison.
And both the Willys Sport and the Sport S are a lot less than $10k away from a Rubicon. Stop trying to make yourselves feel better about not getting a Rubicon, they aren’t as expensive as you think!
Oh for sure and I definitely understand, I just see some crazy statements sometimes. On these very forums I’ve seen people claim that Rubicons cost $15,000 more than Sports. And while that can be true, it certainly doesn’t have to be.JLU Willys Sport vs JLU Rubi is a decent price difference. I like the idea of a Rubicon but simply not in the budget for some of us.
I understand but the difference between the Willys Sport and the regular Willys is the power windows, locks, AC , LED headlights ect.. My point is there shouldn't be 2 Willys. All that stuff should come standard for the price of the Willys Sport. All that stuff comes standard on the Base Bronco for $31k. But Jeep makes you pay thousands more. If you don't want it then you should be able to delete it and subtract from the price then. That's what mean.
