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What actually _is_ normal steering?

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I’d just take it into the dealer and have them give it the once over - make sure everything is tightened to spec etc.

and while you are there - take a couple of Sahara’s out for a test drive on the freeway (drive your one on the same route beforehand and after). Make sure they have the same tire pressure. even better if can convince your wife to go with you and do the same.



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The day I bought my 19 I had test driven a manual and an auto and neither felt weird or scary to me. Then, on the drive over to a friend's house to show off the new Jeep, I was legitimately scared and felt like I couldn't control the vehicle. I felt like I was driving like they do in TV shows where they constantly are moving the wheel back and forth.

Cut to a year later and I don't think anything really changed all that much, but I got used to it. I could drive 80 on the highway comfortably and drove 12 hours each way to visit my mom with nothing to report.

I then traded my 19 for a 20 and it feels much more solid. Barely any play in the wheel. I still have to hold the wheel to the right a few degrees in the far left lane and hold the wheel to the left in the far right lane. I definitely have to give it some inputs every few seconds, but it doesn't feel dangerous or out of the ordinary to me. It tracks straight if I let go of the wheel, but you gotta remember that we are riding on a LOT of side wall. That side wall is gonna flex and bend and your tires are wide and will track away from your desired direction. Couple the huge side wall, with wide tires, play in your ball joints on your tie rod/drag link, and probably some slop in a steering box and you get a Jeep.
 

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it does depend on what you are used to but lets be honest the majority of JL's have a steering issue from factory.

I have driven lots of different vehicles including those perceived to be a bit shite, LR etc and the jeep steering is by far the worst.

I have driven 3 others and they are all have different degrees of crap steering.

If you really believe yours is as straight as a dart then consider yourself lucky and don't ever sell it.

That and the terrible wind noise is really pissing me of right now with my Jeep ownership. :mad:
 

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it does depend on what you are used to but lets be honest the majority of JL's have a steering issue from factory.

I have driven lots of different vehicles including those perceived to be a bit shite, LR etc and the jeep steering is by far the worst.

I have driven 3 others and they are all have different degrees of crap steering.

If you really believe yours is as straight as a dart then consider yourself lucky and don't ever sell it.

That and the terrible wind noise is really pissing me of right now with my Jeep ownership. :mad:
I mean...its an open air vehicle. The doors and top are removable. I really don't know what you expected about wind noise
 

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Haha you are all Jeep blind, I have had plenty of convertibles and t-bar removable top panels, NON of them felt like a mini tornado was blowing through !
 

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Haha you are all Jeep blind, I have had plenty of convertibles and t-bar removable top panels, NON of them felt like a mini tornado was blowing through !
I have never experienced that in my Jeep. Some wind noise? yeah sure, it is a brick on wheels. A "mini tornado"? no way, maybe get your top checked.
 

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I have never experienced that in my Jeep. Some wind noise? yeah sure, it is a brick on wheels. A "mini tornado"? no way, maybe get your top checked.
yea it’s going in for another check, I have adjusted it myself and can’t find the sweet spot.

i expect noise through the non insulated doors and roof, just not through the seals/gaps , that’s just bad design/wind tunnel R&D

steering and excessive wind noise constantly appear in thousands of posts on all the forums.

its a definite issue unfortunately :(
 

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yea it’s going in for another check, I have adjusted it myself and can’t find the sweet spot.

i expect noise through the non insulated doors and roof, just not through the seals/gaps , that’s just bad design/wind tunnel R&D

steering and excessive wind noise constantly appear in thousands of posts on all the forums.

its a definite issue unfortunately :(
That's unfortunate. I only experience wind noise when on the freeway and if it is very windy outside, and it is more due to wind resistance of the windshield. I've had 2 JLs, both sport and 2 door. And the steering is very nice, I have taken them both on very long trips and no issues, they track straight and do not wonder. I have a rubicon suspension on my current sport, and still handles perfectly fine. I have owned sedans as my daily driver commuters my whole life and the jeep isn't much different in terms of steering.

All the JL's I test drove handled perfectly fine. I take my Jeep on roadtrips all the time, I've been camping with it so much, I've carried 13ft kayaks on the top, I've gone on windy roads, I've driven it through massive wind gusts through the desert, snow, and I have wheeled it to its stock limits. I take the top on and off constantly. It is an incredible vehicle and has taken me reliably to all of my adventures. Other than an issue I had with the front seats release handle.
 

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My 2020 rubicon drives like crap too... I’ve improved it with adding a bunch of castor via adjustable lower control arms... it has helped. Next I’ve adjusted the steering box .. that too has helped a bit... next is the synergy bracket and also heavier track bar.
 

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Well, I did pay 9k for the dealer installed anti gravity tire treatment.
Be careful... that dealer may be a Lizard Person! The Lizard Persons have very advanced tech from beyond this world... but they are flesh eaters.... that's why you'll never see them in Whole Foods!!
 
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Be careful... that dealer may be a Lizard Person! The Lizard Persons have very advanced tech from beyond this world... but they are flesh eaters.... that's why you'll never see them in Whole Foods!!
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll watch out!
 

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I have about 400 hwy miles on mine and there are things im getting used to.

Passing semi-trucks there is a vacuum that pulls the jeep and wind has a greater effect than any thing else.

I'm not comfortable yet driving close to other cars at speeds over 75.
I think heavier sway bars could help that but it's not worth giving up the flex..

I just can't drive like a jerk with the bro dozers and I want too.

I'm not complaining and don't expect grand touring performance; its the fastest and best handling wrangler I have ever had.

Definitely doesn't handle like it was modified by lizard people.
 

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