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Great. Now take that Jeep 90 miles an hour over rough terrain. Let's see what happens. Different tools for different situations. More then one way to off road. That's where the so called "made over Ford Ranger" will excel.
Calm down son, I’m not arguing with you……. I’m just pointing out the benefits of the sfa.
If I wanted to do 90 on rough terrain I’d get a truck………..

You’re extremely defensive in every one of your post that I’ve read, there’s no way in hell you’re going to be able to give a unbiased review………pointless anyway on guys like me, I just don’t like the bronco, nothing to do with how one should or shouldn’t wheel it………..
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I think if you took your Bronco 90 miles an hour over open rough terrain you will have a lot more issues than with taking your wrangler rock crawling.

And if everything else you said. Yeah, pretty much. No crawling no game.
Except you can rock crawl with a Bronco as well. Maybe not 100% like a Wrangler but plenty good. And still go fast over rough terrain.
 

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Except you can rock crawl with a Bronco as well. Maybe not 100% like a Wrangler but plenty good. And still go fast over rough terrain.
Now you are contradicting yourself. And still talking without any experience. Not even with the Jeep.
 

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Except you can rock crawl with a Bronco as well. Maybe not 100% like a Wrangler but plenty good. And still go fast over rough terrain.
You are also showing bias. Your logic goes. "The Bronco can go 90mph on the desert, and it can also rock crawl, therefore it is better than the Jeep" Youre already biased towards the Bronco and you've owned it for what? a couple weeks?

And all your opinions based off Youtube University. I've seen drivers miserably do hard obstacles with trailhawk cherokees, subarus, big trucks, anything really. And I say miserably because it looks extremely inefficient. You can build an entire house with basic handtools, that doesn't mean it is the best way to do it.

When you are out on a trail and encounter a real life obstacle going 90 mph on the desert is not gonna help you at all, or the risk of messing up the delicate IFS. The Bronco is handicapped just like any IFS vehicle is offroad. People can go over all the tangents they want, but SFA > IFS. No way around it.
 

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You are also showing bias. Your logic goes. "The Bronco can go 90mph on the desert, and it can also rock crawl, therefore it is better than the Jeep" Youre already biased towards the Bronco and you've owned it for what? a couple weeks?

And all your opinions based off Youtube University. I've seen drivers miserably do hard obstacles with trailhawk cherokees, subarus, big trucks, anything really. And I say miserably because it looks extremely inefficient. You can build an entire house with basic handtools, that doesn't mean it is the best way to do it.

When you are out on a trail and encounter a real life obstacle going 90 mph on the desert is not gonna help you at all, or the risk of messing up the delicate IFS. The Bronco is handicapped just like any IFS vehicle is offroad. People can go over all the tangents they want, but SFA > IFS. No way around it.
I'm not showing any biased. I'm literally playing devils advocate and just thinking out loud.

Also stop acting like I have no off road experience just because I'm a first time Jeep owner and Bronco owner. I've have taken vehicles I've owned in the past through shit here on the east cost that most people would be stupid too. I've broken plenty of axles , u joints and the works. When I was young and dumb I drove my 79 chevy Cheyenne on 38s into a lake and almost made it across until I got hung up on an underwater tree for example. That was a Hell of a time recovering that. That type of stuff was the weekend norm for me and my buddies.

The trails in the woods we would go on were tight between trees, slippery, muddy and a guarantee to get body damage. Unfortunately we're I live there's not much middle ground. You either go down trails like I posted a picture of earlier or straight to the tight trees everywhere body damage rough stuff. When you drive an old truck on 38s body damage is easier to swallow. Not so much on brand new vehicles. Believe me I wish I lived out West where most off roading is open space and rocky trails. Arizona, Colorado, Utah ect ect.

The best part is me being a first time owner of both with no biased is literally the key to making my channel if I decide to go that route. Over the months I can drive them, live with them, wheel them eventually and give reviews along the way of both. Non biased. Plenty of first time buyers would be interested. Maybe.

Right now if I upload videos it's just obviously simple vehicle reviews of both about the interior, exterior, creature comforts and simple drivabilty, for new time buyers. At least I take them on a trail near my house for now. I've watched Jeep and Bronco reviews were they do the reveiw and then drive them around the block in a city and still have a lot of views. Lol.

The videos I really eventually want to make is adventure off roading but with a twist. Also photography of the area. Artistic videos of the trails, wilderness and the surrounding area.

I'm sure the hardcore off roaders wouldn't be interested in my channel.
 

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Thats what I said a while back or in a different thread. People on this forum act like rock crawling is the end all be all and the only type of off roading.

There's different styles of off roading from high speed desert running, flying through washboards, mudding, overlanding to rock crawling. Each one serves a different purpose.

But here if it's not the best at rock crawling it's not capable enough. Lol.

So if you flip it the other way around if the Jeep can't go 90 miles an hour over open rough terrain is not capable?

Different tools for different situations and sides of the extreme. And both can do somewhere in the middle.
The difference is that you can go absolutely anywhere the Bronco can go with the Jeep. You won't get there first, but you will get there without struggling. The Bronco will absolutely struggle to get to some of the places that the Wrangler can go.
 

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The difference is that you can go absolutely anywhere the Bronco can go with the Jeep. You won't get there first, but you will get there without struggling. The Bronco will absolutely struggle to get to some of the places that the Wrangler can go.
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So I had some time to watch the entire video. It was good, very similar to their early content. Bronco gets roasted a bit but nothing we didn't know. In fact, the video makes me like the Bronco more than I did before. They painted it as a family vehicle that can do quite a bit.

It is a pretty nice vehicle. I've toyed with the idea of having a Subaru outback as a family car for family camping trips when we get sick of the Wrangler, or buying Jeep Grand Cherokee. I think I would definitely consider a Bronco instead.

Apples and oranges. I am glad these famous youtubers are finally reaching the end of the Bronco vs. Jeep war and acknowledging they have a very different purpose.
 

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So I had some time to watch the entire video. It was good, very similar to their early content. Bronco gets roasted a bit but nothing we didn't know. In fact, the video makes me like the Bronco more than I did before. They painted it as a family vehicle that can do quite a bit.

It is a pretty nice vehicle. I've toyed with the idea of having a Subaru outback as a family car for family camping trips when we get sick of the Wrangler, or buying Jeep Grand Cherokee. I think I would definitely consider a Bronco instead.

Apples and oranges. I am glad these famous youtubers are finally reaching the end of the Bronco vs. Jeep war and acknowledging they have a very different purpose.
I guess it's OK to watch Lite Brite on YouTube basically throwing obvious shad at the Bronco and agree with them because it fits your beliefs. But if I watch YouTube and mention someone like Loren Healey showing people what a Bronco can really do it doesn't count because he's sponsored by Ford and a professional driver and somehow the video was faked or something.

It's crazy how die hard people are here. I absolutely love my Jeep and all I'm saying from what I've seen the Bronco looks pretty dam capable. And I'm about to find out eventually myself since I actually own the thing. Most everyone else that doesn't own one will be just speculating.
 

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Someone check the suburu forum and see where they stand... lol
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