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Ok I include myself in this rhetorical question. Why is it when two people disagree on something, both sides think only the side with the opposing view is arguing?
Well when two people love each other very much...oh wait, I mean shit what was the question?

I mean it takes two to tango...

Wait...

 

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Ok I include myself in this rhetorical question. Why is it when two people disagree on something, both sides think only the side with the opposing view is arguing?
You mean everyone isn't "serious arguing?"
 

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Hot take.

"Serious" is when you're giving back to your local trails and are actively involved in fostering the best local 4x4 culture/community that can be had. It's an attitude.

You know these off-road wizard types when you meet them, and you wish you could find the time and dedication to their sport like they have.
And yet "serious" for others might include tearing up those same trails. Unfortunately I've seen both.
 

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I contend that serious off-roading is measured with one thing: “Pucker-factor”

Discuss.
Pucker-factor being the result of real or imagined pucker worthiness, or both?
Is spontaneous profanity a determining factor In your equation?
Please clarify.
 
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I contend that serious off-roading is measured with one thing: “Pucker-factor”

Discuss.
But then we are right back where we started, since everybody's "pucker factor" tolerance is different.
 

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It's the sidewall to tire diameter ratio which is usually a better indicator.... Unless it's a full-size pickup with a 6" lift, then there's no doubt that bedtime fun is going to be disappointing, whatever tire it's got on it.
My wife loves to pull up next to those stupidly jacked up rigs, wait until they make eye contact, then hold up her index finger and thumb a few millimeters apart.

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This is so true. The subjective trail rating is alive and well. Black Bear Pass is rated as a 5-6 level trail on the Jeep BOH app. You can literally drive in in 2wd. If you can successful park your Jeep in a parking lot, you should be able to wheel this trail as long as heights don't bother you. There is one spot that is off chamber then a couple switch backs that are a little tight. Yet if you have not wheeled on shelf road with huge drop offs, it can be intimidating.
Exactly. If you're petrified of heights it's a "no fucking way...no matter what" trail. If not and you have an appropriate vehicle then it's fairly "meh" from a difficulty perspective.

I'm not sure how some people here think that's objective and not blatantly subjective.
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