^^ Yeah this. ^^I dunno.. just me perhaps. But you got the Rubicon. Use the Rubicon. I didn't buy my Jeep to be a pavement princess (no offense to those who have). The rig can take it. Properly equipped and armored you should avoid most trail damage... though the most important tool for avoiding that is the one between your ears. Your $50k Jeep is far more likely to be hurt or meet its demise on the highways and byways than offroading.
I guess the question is would you spend more on a 2nd Jeep than you would on fixing any potential but not yet realized damage wheeling your JL?
Offroad it. I think what youd spend on another full jeep for offroading, you can just pay to have any scratches fixed.Hey guys,
I'm new to the offroading adventures but not to cars/ motor-sports in general. I have a 19 Rubicon 4 door that I have taken to 2 off road parks. This last weekend while on a level 3 (out of 5) I really felt I needed a lift and larger tires to maneuver over the rocks. Most guys had 4" lifts and 35-37 tires. There were several tight spots and close calls and I'm really shocked I didn't scratch up more stuff than I did.
I know I'm gona get the comments like "oh Jeeps are supposed to be scratched" and "That's what their used for".... But I'm seriously considering getting a 05-06 TJ rubicon or a 08-09 2 door Rubicon and save my 50k Jeep for cruising around and light fire roads.... I can pick one up for 10-15k with 35" tires and not have to cringe every time I get really close to sliding into a tree.
What I'm asking from the knowledgeable Jeep community out here is whats a better buy? I know the 3.8 is under powered but is it worth staying with a 10 year older TJ platform to get the 4.0?
QFT. I 'wheel w a guy in Moab who is die hard manual lover. I can't get him to see how much it hurts his 'wheeling on ledges because at some point if he's not going to make it he has to clutch it, almost always resulting in backward progress.Meh....pick whichever you like better. Both have their advantagesh/disadvantages.
If you want longer wheelbase, get the JK 4 dr. It doesn't sound like you're going to fab a TJ (non-LJ) to the point where it's on 1Tons and is stretched to 110" WB...so if you are okay with a 94-100" WB, the TJ probably makes more sense mainly b/c it's smaller and fits down tighter trails better than the 2 dr JK....but has that really annoying low hanging belly pan.
It all depends on your uses too....need to haul 4 adults....get the JKU. Like to climb BIG waterfalls, JKU. Run really tight trails, JK 2dr or TJ. Need more interior room, JK.
I you're planning more extreme trails, I'd stay away from the manual.....even though I much prefer standard transmissions, as much as it pains me to say it....they don't work as well for bigger obstacles or vehicles without stupid deep gear boxes (like over 100:1)
I hear this a lot, but since I drive the vast majority of miles on-road, I went with the manual. I have not been wheeling with my Jeep yet (this weekend will be my first run, W00T!!) but regardless of how it is on the trails I am sure I'll be able to handle it. I just HATE (H-A-T-E) automatic transmissions.QFT. I 'wheel w a guy in Moab who is die hard manual lover. I can't get him to see how much it hurts his 'wheeling on ledges because at some point if he's not going to make it he has to clutch it, almost always resulting in backward progress.
An auto is like being able to track stand on a mtn bike while a manual forces you to clip out if you don't clean it.
I LOVE manuals in any other application but for 'wheeling they just don't work as well, no way around it.
I have never offroaded in anything but a manual. That includes rock crawling. You'll survive.I hear this a lot, but since I drive the vast majority of miles on-road, I went with the manual. I have not been wheeling with my Jeep yet (this weekend will be my first run, W00T!!) but regardless of how it is on the trails I am sure I'll be able to handle it. I just HATE (H-A-T-E) automatic transmissions.